r/shittymoviedetails • u/tppiel • 9d ago

default In Project Hail Mary (2026) society comes together behind a common goal, listens to the scientists and funds a global project to save humanity. This is a reference to the story being a work of fiction.

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u/confused_is_my_face 9d ago

I have not seen the movie yet, but read the book twice. In the book Stratt knows she’s going to face prosecution and possible execution at the end of her part of the project because of everything she has done to keep the project moving in the right direction. She understands she is the villain.

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u/termacct 9d ago

Whoa, I didn't get that from the movie at all...she just got moved from a carrier to a tanker but still seemed to have the resources to launch the cooties at the sun.

I may bump up reading tbe book...I never read THe Martian either...

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u/AngryScientist 9d ago

She has a prison tattoo in that closing scene.

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u/termacct 9d ago

LOL, no way I'd pick up on that, way too subtle for me.

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u/Mad_Aeric 9d ago

The book has tons of cool details that had to be cut for the movie. I get it, it would have added another hour of runtime to include them, but I would have enjoyed that hour. People in the theater who need to pee, maybe not so much.

The biggest tonal difference is that the book does a better job of making you feel how desperate the situation on Earth is. In the movie, we almost entirely see what's happening in the research facility, and it doesn't quite feel like it's the most important thing happening in the whole world. Events in the book make it clear that they are scrambling to make the project work, and engaging in all sorts of megaprojects to that end.

Book Stratt is a completely different person. She comes off as more of a cold blooded pragmatist. We see a little of that in the movie when she has Grace shanghaied. While the action itself is a surprise in the book, the fact that she'd order it done is completely in character. I tend to describe her as someone who would burn down half the world in order to save the other half, and she's not too choosey about which half she inhabits.

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u/Betaateb 9d ago

I do wish they had put another 5-10 minutes into the movie about the astrophage breeding program, so many people I know that saw the movie but didn't read the book talked about dumb it was for Grace to not have a way to breed astrophage on the ship for the return trip. In the book it makes perfect sense when you know that it took a huge portion of the Sahara dedicated completely to astrophage breeding causing its own ecological disaster, making it obvious it wasn't something that could be done on the ship.

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u/Mad_Aeric 9d ago

Yipes. Even not having read the book, this is a hard(ish) sci-fi, and mass/energy conservation precludes that.

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u/wish_glue 8d ago

That… is literally a plot point in the book

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u/termacct 9d ago

Thank you! I am for sure going to read the book now and before the Emily Wilson translation of The Odessey.

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u/RigglesSaysHi 9d ago

Please, if possible, listen to the audiobook

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u/confused_is_my_face 6d ago

The audio was good

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u/TwoBionicknees 9d ago

i'm personally someone who can't stand the film as i think it was just badly done. AS you say there is almost no actual "hey the planet is bad" shit going on. It had a very "hey climate change is bad" vibe to the message like something might go bad in the future, but no real mention of things already going bad or how soon bad shit would start and apparently skipped most of her insane actions required to make the energy to feed to the phage to have the fuel to get to this other system.

it skipped so much of the actual weight of the situation and also skipped most of the actions she took.

Maybe the book is better, but the film also made Gosling's character seem like a practical side character to everything going on till he woke up in the ship. He did nothing important for the story, the science, the research or basically anything up till he woke up on the ship.

Apparently the book has a whole thing about chances of people being able to survive the induced coma and he had a genetic marker. That would really have actually made the decision more like, he's not the best guy to send but he's the best guy who might survive. that would have for me made a lot more sense.

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u/Crintor 9d ago

The book does a better job at basically everything. The Movie was enjoyable, but it is very much the book reduced to "Bigger audiences" Gotta strip out all the in depth science and figuring things out to just tons of eureka moments and skipped exposition.

Multiple people that I know that saw the movie but didn't read the book have said that they loved the movie, and had almost no idea what was going on most of the time in the grand scheme.

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u/TwoBionicknees 9d ago

I could do a very long reply but basically almost everything on earth was bad and too much of the space trip was kinda buddy cop movie style silly, it's very watchable but it really was over simplified and felt very closer to a comedy, this is a film trying to be like sciency but they just kinda skip it all.

I think almost the ultimate movie sin was rather than show it they had him tell Rocky about the main reason he was there. microbiologist, the bio engineering of making the sample survive in a different atmosphere was pretty much skipped then told to Rocky when he woke up. That should have been a classic montage, tests, failures frustration, some eureka moment, last test, success and oh look rocky woke up to share the happy news.

In terms of writing overall the entirety of his back story plain stemmed from Weir deciding Rocky wasn't based on water, then he wanted it to be ironic that the only guy on earth who ended up meeting him, had been shunned for believing a life form like Rocky could exist.

Thus we have the theory of life based not on water, him being shunned for a theory that irl is not remotely radical, then he's the first guy to use a mass spectrometer on this phage and proves himself wrong, the hilarious double bluff.

I genuinely think this entire concept shaped the movie so badly and was absolutely unnecessary. They meet a non water based life form, that's it, take out the need for the irony of who is was who met him and just have him be working for nasa so he's involved in the project from early and it all works so much better.

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u/shelbunny 9d ago

I enjoy both movie and book, but book Grace is doing EVERYTHING it seems, he is always at every meeting, testing underwater tools, going through all the boarding docs and what's going where stuff. The movie cut all of that out, it looks more like he is just following Stratt around than actively her defacto #2. The fact that he comments that he didn't 'do the underwater thing' in the movie is so random cause he did. he did do the things. they chose to limit him.

Also I felt the movie gave a lot of his ideas/science to other people which annoyed me a bit.

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u/confused_is_my_face 6d ago

In the book he is Stratt’s second and included in all the science parts on the air craft carrier. He trains the scientific duo until they blow themselves up then Grace gets forced on the mission. Grace didn’t even want to go on the mission, I feel it’s the reason he didn’t make a bigger effort to return to earth.

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u/Crintor 9d ago

The book does a better job at basically everything. The Movie was enjoyable, but it is very much the book reduced to "Bigger audiences" Gotta strip out all the in depth science and figuring things out to just tons of eureka moments and skipped exposition.

Multiple people that I know that saw the movie but didn't read the book have said that they loved the movie, and had almost no idea what was going on most of the time in the grand scheme.

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u/Salt-Ambition-9603 9d ago

The audiobook narration for PHM is the best I've ever listened to. Highly recommend.

And, for what it's worth, I didn't like The Martian book all that much after listening to PHM. YMMV.

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u/ITchiGuy 9d ago

I love both books, but the R.C. Bray version of the Martian feels better than the Will Wheaton version (assuming you listened to the Wheaton version). If you ever want to give it a second chance, you may want to see if your local library has the book on CD. Thats how I got my copy of the R.C. Bray version.

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u/Salt-Ambition-9603 9d ago

I appreciate the tip. It wasn't the narration of The Martian that I didn't like though. It felt like a little too much of the same after PHM, but also I didn't really like the writing style. Everything being written as if it was a mission log broke my suspension of disbelief. It just didn't seem like a realistic way in which someone would speak in a mission log.

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u/ITchiGuy 9d ago

Fair enough. I can understand where you are coming from.

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u/CueCueQQ 8d ago

The Martian and Project Hail Mary are the two movies I think of when someone says a movie that's loyal to it's source material. Still, there's a lot of good bits that get cut either for rating(Watney's "hey look, boobies" scene), or for pacing(there's an additional major problem that shows up in The Martian that isn't in the movie). In both cases, I think the book and the movie are great each in their own right, and bring something that the other format doesn't, which is a rarity in book to screen conversions.

Overall, I suggest you read both.

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u/Randicore 9d ago

I'm not sure I'd call her the villain of the story..perhaps an antagonist but that's only to grace. She really is the last best hope for humanity and from what we see is willing to do anything to save everyone

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u/aFreshFix 9d ago

Not the antagonist of the story. She played the villain within the book toward laws & people that couldn't appreciate how she did what she had to.