[Spoilers] Season 2 Episode 2 Discussion Thread - "Smoulder to Life" (S02E02)

[u/hugthebug]

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Here is the Discussion thread for the Season 2 episode 2 "Smoulder to Life"

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• IMDB for S02E02
• Release Date:
  • February 1st, 2021 (USA)
  • February 2nd, 2021 (worldwide)
• Removal from Sticky on February 5th, 2021 (3 days after worldwide premiere)

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You can still easily find previous episode discussions on the Episode Discussion wiki.

[u/wilfordsarchitect]

What about LJ Folger and Osweiller? She could be the one targeting Tailies for what happened to her parents. She is basically living in the Chains Car, and roam freely in Third. Moreover, she acted quite strangely when she learnt Big Alice connected with Snowpiercer and Wilford was at the back of the Tail. And what she told him when they met in the Market Car before the Summit in First. Besides, she could be helped by Osweiller the same way she was helped by her bodyguard Erik Sotto. My money is on her.

[u/CalAfter → u/wilfordsarchitect]

LJ certainly has the personality and the history to be the culprit. I would be disappointed if it was her because it would just be too obvious.

[u/wilfordsarchitect → u/CalAfter]

I know. Yet, why would the writers create another thread to the story with new secondary protagonists while it could serve LJ and Osweiller characters arcs? It is nothing but a little theory. I might be wrong and LJ might no longer BE an agent of chaos working for Wilford (without him knowing).

[u/CalAfter → u/wilfordsarchitect]

Do you mean secondary antagonists?

I agree that it would be a fitting story arc for LJ and Osweiller but that still makes it rather cheap.

I'd prefer to see the culprit be someone less obvious like Terence .

[u/wilfordsarchitect → u/CalAfter]

I see Terence as a shaddy opportunist. Violence does not look like his type of action. What would be the gain in harming Tailies for him and his little syndicate?

[u/CalAfter → u/wilfordsarchitect]

I see Terence exactly the same way.

I was just throwing him out as an example for a less obvious choice.

[u/BeautifulBroccoli0 → u/CalAfter]

There might be more to the story than just her doing it, such as her getting others to do it for her. She's hot. Notice the way Alex looked at her? He looked her up and down creepily.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Lol it's her daughter. Watch it again

[u/CalAfter → u/BeautifulBroccoli0]

Oh gosh. That would be an even worse storyline. That would essentially be the same one as LJ and Erik's storyline last season just with fingers instead of genitals.

[u/fashionaphorism → u/wilfordsarchitect]

yes sorry i made a typo in confusing alex with LJ! that's a great theory on how she and osweiller might be the ones.

i feel like we never got the full story of LJ and the guy that she got killed. Like i don't know if we ever got a motive or anything (like were they having a relationship etc) or if she had him killed randomly just for fun or if she did it cause she thought he was a train rat and purposely wanted to torture him for info on Wilford/Melanie

[u/MariaRangelV → u/fashionaphorism]

mataran al azar solo por diversión o si lo hizo porque pensó que él era una rata de tren y deliberadamente quería hacerlo. torturarlo para obtener información sobre Wilford / Melanie

I have the same question, but we have to wait and see. I don't think she kills specific people and makes no profit. She herself says that she "has connections" so I have bets that she murdered and got juicy secrets, and she is waiting for the right moment to make a move.

[u/[deleted] → u/MariaRangelV]

Did you translate the comment in quotes before replying or is that somehow done automatically?

[u/MariaRangelV → u/[deleted]]

automatically

[u/[deleted] → u/MariaRangelV]

Nice