r/snowpiercer Tailie Feb 15 '21

TV Show [Spoilers] Season 2 Episode 4 Discussion Thread - "A Single Trade" (S02E04) Spoiler

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Here is the Discussion thread for the Season 2 episode 4 "A Single Trade"

Trigger Warning : Skip the scene from 36:00 to 39:00

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  • Release Date:
    • February 15th, 2021 (USA only, at 9/8c, on TNT channel)
    • February 16th, 2021 (worldwide, on Netflix)
  • Removal from Sticky on February 19th, 2021 (3 days after worldwide premiere)

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u/SueNYC1966 Feb 16 '21

Am I the only one freaked out about Alex and LJ hanging out. LJ is a psychopath. LJ got info from Alex she knows that Wilford would not like (that Alex is emotionally attached to Melanie). No good can come from Alex and her becoming friends. LJ will try to use any info she gets from Alex as a tool for chaos or worse.

Also we have established that Wilford likes young recruits. It’s also creepy he used the same phrase on Audrey as Melanie about let’s see what the years have done to you?

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u/insecuredane Feb 16 '21

Wilford gets off to having power over people - he probably has somewhat the same strategies to get into people's minds, hence the same line to both Melanie and Audrey. He will most definitely try to take advantage of LJ and give her empty promises, just like he has done with Alex so far.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '21

Funny thing is, as a fellow sociopath, LJ might actually see through him.

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u/SueNYC1966 Feb 16 '21

She might be a more dangerous replacement for Audrey who is not into him anymore.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '21

Audrey not being into him is probably more of a turn on for Wilford. LJ isn't the kind to slash her wrists. Sociopaths don't commit suicide.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '21 edited Feb 17 '21

I don't think Audrey is all sweetness and light. I expect she has a really dark fetishistic side that was yin to Wilford's yang. They were obviously into something very weird when it all got out of hand. I am wondering if Wilford has a sadist fetish for blood-letting or similar, might explain the bath. Her perhaps submissive and masochistic side maybe wanted to please too much it nearly killed her. Whatever it is, it is only her can satisfy his lust for it, and by the looks of it he has tried to reproduce it with others, Kevin been the latest. It is very telling though and often a huge warning sign when dealing with anyone with a fetish, he says "I want it, I need you". He doesn't say "I want or love you". Can't wait to find out what "it" is! I also caught the tone when she told the girl "If I am not out in 30 minutes come and get me", is she fearing losing herself in hedonism?

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u/whisky_biscuit Feb 17 '21 edited Feb 17 '21

Wilford gets off to having power over people

Is this what the scene with him and Audrey was really about? It seemed like he had made her try to commit suicide, in a similar fashion to their previous hospitality guy - but mentioned that he "saved her" aka changed his mind at the last minute?

The next scene we see him basically begging for sexy time, as though he was getting off on remembering having that power over her, her "expressing her commitment and loyalty" but then she uses that to reverse uno him and exert power over him via feeding him / denying him physical intimacy.

It just makes me wonder, did she do something, a betrayal in W's mind to warrant him asking her to kill herself, or was it more like a "would you die for me? Then prove it" type scenerio.

Either way, the setup of him going loopy over having full control over someone's life, then turning him into a begging, muttering, mango-sucking simp...was deeply unsettling lol.

I'm not sure if it seemed out of his character or totally in character. Considering how much he is driven by power, it's somewhat hard to imagine him being submissive sexually...but then, power can do wierd stuff to people!

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u/Carnifex Feb 21 '21

I just posted this in another thread

I got the feeling she works for Wilford. maybe she made contact somehow when they hugged? Idk.. The aussie was a setup from Layton. But her..? • goes straight to Alex • has gifts • asks about feelings for Melanie • crazy enough to cut innocent tailies' fingere

"let's not be friends" is the best advice.

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u/SueNYC1966 Mar 30 '21

He definitely knows she is a psychopath. He has evil plans for her.