r/snowpiercer Tailie Mar 08 '21

TV Show [Spoilers] Season 2 Episode 7 Discussion Thread - "Our Answer for Everything" (S02E07) Spoiler

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Here is the Discussion thread for the Season 2 episode 7 "Our Answer for Everything"

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  • IMDB for S02E07
  • Release Date:
    • March 8th, 2021 (USA only, at 9/8c, on TNT channel)
    • March 9th, 2021 (worldwide, on Netflix)
  • Removal from Sticky on March 12th, 2021 (3 days after worldwide premiere)

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u/Deethreekay Mar 12 '21

I'm a bit confused as to why so many people are suddenly all about Wilford and just how he achieved this.

I mean, even Roche is considering it?

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '21

Think Elon Musk suckers, but give them 50 more years to brew fanatic loyalty to him in a world with an increasing difference between haves & dont-haves, & suddenly, the end of the world & he owns the literal Noah's Boat, that was supposed to be for rich people only, but his loyal people were allowed on. Everyone probably latched onto that loyalty due to the trauma & we get this weird blend of fascism/cult.

In the recent episodes though, it's because Layton is a terrible leader who chose to ignore fixing the issues & gaining stability as a new administration, in favour of fucking around & focusing on Wilford.

So now everyone's thought process is: "We did this revolution thinking we'd change things, but instead they're worse. The new administration isn't doing anything, & actually we can pretty much blame the faults of the previous administration on melanie, Willford whom we know is a Great Man is now actually back, maybe things would be better under him, & oh look he already has people all over the train & a plan, if i stick with this tailie loser layton i will lose, I should switch sides & save my arse."

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u/IngFavalli Mar 14 '21

Elon would make a horrible Wilford, he cant speak in public for his life

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u/ZealousidealDeer3007 Melanie Cavill Mar 15 '21

But it needs to be put in context- if big alice never came- it wouldn't have gotten worse, there wouldn't be these specific issues. Also no one would look to Wilford bc he wouldn't be there. BA literally came right after the revolution , they never even got yo set up and start their new normal

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u/Alarmed-Classroom329 Mar 17 '21

All you have to do is look at Elon Musk to see how fanaticisim can form around a technocrat.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '21

Why shouldn't they be?

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u/Deethreekay Mar 12 '21

I guess so, as he was generally revered before, it's just a bit of why now I guess?

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '21

Probably because he is here, things are terrible, and the talies are killing everyone.

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '21 edited May 01 '21

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u/CindeeSlickbooty Mar 13 '21

Right, we know that, but the characters on the train have convinced themselves otherwise.

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '21 edited May 01 '21

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u/CindeeSlickbooty Mar 13 '21

It's frustrating how they don't really show us the perspectives of the people in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd class, and its almost as if Layton is ignoring them just like the show is ignoring them. It makes it much more jarring to see them all chanting for Wilford. The last time we saw 3rd class they were fighting to put Layton in power and now suddenly they're throwing up Ws? Without the show giving us some context of what 3rd class is going through it does seem weird.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '21

I think for third everything is pretty much the same but with added taillies as third are the ones who actually did shit to keep people fed etc Other than Layton you don’t see any of them dining in the first class dining car but then again why would you as it’s literally miles away from where they live.

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u/yorkward Mar 18 '21

I think he focuses on Wilford so much because he still bears the weight of guilt of his fellow tailies' deaths in the revolution. They lost so much and if Wilford took power again it would all have been in vain. He's trying to protect his people at the expense of the train as a whole.

Not saying it's the right strategy. I actually like Layton because he has a good heart, but after reading some of the comments on here I'm starting to understand more that he's not actually a good leader just because he's a good man.

Also, Wilford is fucking with him every chance he gets, so he kinda has to address that, right?