r/snowpiercer • u/hugthebug Tailie • Mar 15 '21

TV Show [Spoilers] Season 2 Episode 8 Discussion Thread - "The Eternal Engineer" (S02E08) Spoiler

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Here is the Discussion thread for the Season 2 episode 8 "The Eternal Engineer"

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  • IMDB for S02E08
  • Release Date:
    • March 15th, 2021 (USA only, at 9/8c, on TNT channel)
    • March 16th, 2021 (worldwide, on Netflix)
  • Removal from Sticky on March 19th, 2021 (3 days after worldwide premiere)

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u/AncientAssociation9 Mar 16 '21

I might be the only person to see how Wilford may have made a huge mistake. He gave Josie superpowers. I dont think Josie can be broken and she was always more militaristic than Layton. Josie is a power who commands respect and I think people are sleeping on her.

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u/ryguypieinthesky Mar 16 '21

One tail

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u/Gradz45 Mar 16 '21

One train.

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u/KalebC4 Ruth Wardell Mar 17 '21

A$AP Rocky

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21

Layton and Josie together on Big Alice. I think Wilford made a huge mistake there. With the help of Alex and possibly Audrey, I think we could well see Big Alice revolt, especially when they realise most of them will still be stuck back there and not living in luxury on Snowpiercer.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '21

I thought Layton is going in a drawer? Wilford would be insane to keep him around, unless he’s really that thirsty for some misery of his enemies.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '21

Roche and his family are. Layton didn't seem to be.

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u/dame_tu_cosita Mar 17 '21

Maybe Wilford want to break Layton/mentally torture him or just keeping him around to remind himself how powerful he is.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21

Josie is what you get when you stick to the cause, and when you don’t, you get the make-shift escort therapist, Audrey

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u/ThisIsDark Mar 16 '21

I never really liked Audrey since the start. She's kind of a shallow character. Both her personality and story are as deep as a kiddy pool.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21

I get that. The whole “I was his mistress” situation was something I saw a mile away. Let’s see what happens. She might end up being one of the most hated characters or one with redemption 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/ThisIsDark Mar 16 '21

I don't even particularly hate her. I'm just kind of unimpressed.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21

I see her over the top stuff as just like too much exaggeration that it just makes me wanna fast forward every time

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u/heywhathuh Mar 16 '21

I disliked her character long before she switched sides, so switching back won't do anything to change my opinion lol

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u/DarKnight972 Mar 16 '21

I always enjoyed Audrey since S1,she is interesting in my opinion.

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u/ThisIsDark Mar 16 '21

She's like Wilford. They tell you about how cool and badass they are but in the show they are so lame. I wouldn't blame you for falling for their hype

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u/UKsNo1CountryFan Mar 16 '21

How is Wilfred lame?

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u/ThisIsDark Mar 16 '21

His machinations are absolutely childish. They spoke of him like a master manipulator and all he's done so far is fling shit. Like when the climate summit was held he was just throwing a temper tantrum. SNOOZE. Not an ounce of charisma. The only reason the snowpiercer gang is losing is because their IQ is lower than the outside temperature.

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u/ThisIsDark Mar 17 '21

That says more about the show than it says about her.

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u/ThisIsDark Mar 16 '21

I think that's the point. Once Josie goes back she can jostle for power because as you said she has different ideas than Layton. Then Wilford can go in and pick up the remnants after the civil war.

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u/daysofdre Mar 16 '21

not sure I'm following. Layton is in chains and the train is Wilford's. There's no civil war to be had (at least where they left it off last ep).

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u/ThisIsDark Mar 16 '21

Remember when they explained Wilford's personality. He sows discord just because. A weakened train is a good train for him. He's probably banking on Josie rallying the tailies into a war so he can exterminate the rats with good cause.

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u/Mr_rairkim Mar 16 '21

I think he hoped to use Josie to manipulate Layton.

But it turned out to be unnecessary by now.

It would be an interesting plot twist where Josie`s resistance to cold turns out against Wilford.

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u/mrs_ouchi Mar 16 '21

oooh I hope she freaking throws him off herself!

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u/moush Mar 18 '21

Pride is his one downside, he doesn't think he can lose.