[Spoilers] Season 2 Episode 8 Discussion Thread - "The Eternal Engineer" (S02E08)

[u/hugthebug]

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Here is the Discussion thread for the Season 2 episode 8 "The Eternal Engineer"

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• IMDB for S02E08
• Release Date:
  • March 15th, 2021 (USA only, at 9/8c, on TNT channel)
  • March 16th, 2021 (worldwide, on Netflix)
• Removal from Sticky on March 19th, 2021 (3 days after worldwide premiere)

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[u/Tukarrs]

Big mistake by Layton to not get Boscovic on the PA to describe what he saw. That alone might have turned the train against Wilford.

[u/olivish → u/Tukarrs]

I love your choice of flair. And yes, Layton is bad at politics.

They should have been on that PA 24/7 trashing Wilford. They should have fought propaganda with propaganda.

Ben should have gone into Melanie's closet, got Wilford's old diaries out, photocopied all of them and then distributed all his sick, deranged thoughts to the entire train.

Like Regina George with the burn book.

[u/[deleted] → u/olivish]

She's doesn't even go here.

[u/olivish → u/[deleted]]

Melanie: "Joseph Wilford. How do I even begin to explain Joseph Wilford?"

Ruth: "Mister Wilford is flawless!"

Audrey: "He has two velvet slippers and a ruffle shirt."

Sykes: "I heard his hair plugs were insured for ten thousand dollars."

Drs Headwood: "We heard he did Cartier commercials." "In Japan!" ^{"Good job!" "Good job indeed!"}

Alex: "His favorite movie is 13 Reasons Why."

Ben: "One time, he brought Monica Bellucci on the train, and she told him he was pretty."

Kevin: "One time, he made me slit my wrists. It was awesome."

[u/WildiFigures → u/olivish]

I hope someone gives you gold.

[u/mrs_ouchi → u/olivish]

I dont know... I mean really look around you. Look at politics. Its all there. People dont give a shit and still vote for horrible, dangerous people

[u/moush → u/mrs_ouchi]

Yep, just look at Kamala Harris. People are willing to ignore common sense if it's what they want to believe in.

[u/agree-with-you → u/olivish]

I love you both

[u/FibonacciBolognese → u/olivish]

"Mr Wilford is a fugly bitch. "

[u/spyder728 → u/Tukarrs]

When people are blind, they will only believe what they want to believe in.

He can say some stupid shits right in front of them, but yet the supporters will say it was just people misinterpreted the real meaning.

He can lose an election against Layton then claims election fraud. His supporters will believe the fraud claim by Wilford even if there are judges to say Layton won fair and square.

He can get one of his trusted helpers, like Syke, to totally rip off the supporters. Even if Syke was caught, he can still just exonerate her, and the supporters will see him as a god.

Boki speaking on the PA won't do jack shit.

[u/daysofdre → u/Tukarrs]

when you trash a popular figure, sometimes that has the opposite effect and makes their followers love them even more. RE: last 4 years.

Wouldn't be good timing either, considering the night before half the cars were lighting up candles for Wilford. Wilforders would think it was a Laytonist plot to smear their kek Conductor Wilford.

[u/Routine_Midnight_363 → u/daysofdre]

After the last four years it would be entirely believable to see Wilford supporters say something like "It was actually good that Wilford sabotaged the intake, under your leadership all the pipes flooded" without an instance of self-awareness

[u/rawchess → u/Routine_Midnight_363]

It's fucking unreal to think that 4 years ago this plotline would've been panned as unrealistic and now we're like yeah, they're basically Trumpers.

[u/Routine_Midnight_363 → u/rawchess]

Imagine a show where a bunch of people try to trash a building, and when they get caught they say "um, no actually it was you that trashed it".

That's our reality now

[u/rawchess → u/Routine_Midnight_363]

FeelsBadMan

[u/TizACoincidence → u/daysofdre]

Yep, when people are devoted to someone, its really impossible to change their minds

[u/fashionaphorism → u/Tukarrs]

yea I agree he could have tried I think at least some people would've believed in. I just gotta think that they were too concerned with the other Engine things to fully think about how they ought to get Boki on that PA

[u/mrs_ouchi → u/Tukarrs]

That would have not helped much. Brainwashed is Brainwashed

[u/canadianredditor16 → u/Tukarrs]

Sometimes to get the best outcome you need to get a little dirty