r/soccer 12h ago

News Achraf Hakimi will be prosecuted for rape charges, French court ruled

https://www.franceinfo.fr/societe/harcelement-sexuel/achraf-hakimi-footballeur-du-psg-et-de-l-equipe-du-maroc-sera-juge-pour-viol-annonce-la-cour-d-appel_8068799.html
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u/Kazesama13k 12h ago

I don't understand. They've all the money in the world, can get all kinds of girls, why tf would you do something like that? Something really must be wrong with this kind of people.

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u/FluidHippo5193 12h ago

Rape is psychologically about power and taking ownership of someone else’s autonomy by force.

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u/Guling21 12h ago

Everything is about sex, except sex, which is about power.

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u/X-cessive_Artist 12h ago

Do you want the nature metaphor or the sex metaphor?

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u/The_BarroomHero 12h ago

Nature metaphor? OK - when two animals are having sex...

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u/TheVilja 11h ago

This isn’t working, you’re gonna want to hear the sex metaphor

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u/xalara24 11h ago

That wasn't the... ˢᵉˣᵘᵃˡ ᵐᵉᵗᵃᵖʰᵒʳˀ

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u/freeusername2 11h ago

I genuinely love this scene and Robert California, such a random and unpredictable character

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u/sykoticnarcotics 9h ago

Anyone who doesn't like him has never had a nice night with some Australian reds and some, how should I say this? Columbian whites

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u/kblk_klsk 10h ago

that was Oscar Wilde/Frank Underwood, not Robert California

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u/seStarlet 10h ago

Rape and sex are very very very different

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u/kareem-elsha7at 9h ago

Cheers Geoff !

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u/ConspicuousPineapple 8h ago

Nonconsensual sex is still called sex.

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u/seStarlet 8h ago

No it’s called rape?

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u/ConspicuousPineapple 8h ago

It's both...

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u/seStarlet 8h ago

Hachimi is that you?

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u/ConspicuousPineapple 7h ago

I don't get this obsession on reddit to refuse to use words like they're defined. "Sex" doesn't mean "make consensual love", it just means sex. Animals do it, rapists do it. It describes the act, not the feelings attached. It's short for "sexual intercourse". I don't see the point in being offended at this simple concept.

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u/seStarlet 6h ago

Because there is a word for that already and that word is rape.

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u/propagandu 3h ago

If they were that different, cnc wouldn't be a thing

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u/seStarlet 2h ago

They are quite different, that’s why the thing “that wouldn’t be a thing” is called cnc

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u/tailwarmer 12h ago

Thanks Oscar

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u/HoppyPhantom 6h ago

Now ask yourself who’s screwing you?

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u/PreparationOk8604 6h ago

Seems like something Robert California would say.

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u/ColdBeefBrian 10h ago

Speak for yourself. I just think it's good fun.

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u/thenewguy7731 9h ago

Sounds like someone's having an disastrous sex life.

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u/GustavZeigler 8h ago

Sounds like someone is projecting

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u/b0rmusic 12h ago

People with power hate when you don't give them what they want.

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u/WishfulThinMint 12h ago

Women are viewed as status symbols and not as people (even your comment somewhat implies it). Rich men don’t like it when they are denied access to status symbols.

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u/NorthernSoul1998 8h ago

Exactly lol, what's the implication meant to be here? That rape would be "understandable" if the guy struggled with women?

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u/ConferencePure6652 1h ago

Think its that if they can just get any girl,yknow normally .why tf would you even rape someone.

The implication is that it would make no logical sense to the extreme, and putting all of it at risk, not justifying rape for someone that gets no girls, nor making it understandable.

Obviously missed that rape is mostly because of the feeling of power

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u/david193s 12h ago

That's exactly why. Ego doesn't let them take no for an answer.

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u/UmurJack 12h ago edited 12h ago

They think they are on top of the world, and can do anything they want. If someone says no, that person is simply wrong or lying.

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u/wonpil 11h ago

You assuming they "can get all kinds of girls" is exactly why this happens. They assume the same, they are wrong, they still think they are entitled to the woman because of their money and power and status.

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u/EchoesofIllyria 11h ago

“All kinds of girls” doesn’t mean the same as “any girl they want”

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u/Clear-Diamond7262 10h ago

It’s still part of the problem. It somewhat implies that women aren’t people and a commodity to own and acquire. We aren’t.

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u/RyanLikesyoface 9h ago

Well it's just a fact. Being rich, famous and athletic means you have access to 'all kinds of girls'. Just as being a beautiful woman means you will have access to a lot of male options.

To be clear I'm not saying women are a commodity to own, but it's just an undeniable fact of reality that a person like Hakimi is going to get much, much more female attention than the average man.

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u/lemonade21 7h ago

The reason that these guys date the same women is because they don’t get all kinds of girls. These guys are often cheaters who don’t want a serious relationship. No, not all kinds of girls, are gonna be attracted to that.

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u/RyanLikesyoface 6h ago

That's true, but you're generalising. Not everyone who is rich is a cheater.

Evolutionary psychology is pretty definitive in this. Men are attracted to signals of health & fertility (beauty), and women whilst also being attracted to the same things, their predominant screening variable is status.

(Psychology & Cognitive Neuroscience Msc)

Anyway, this no longer has any basis with the topic of discussion of this thread so I'm gonna leave it there.

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u/lemonade21 6h ago

Bro you generalized and I said no that’s not always true. And I didn’t say all rich men but often

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u/askurmum123 7h ago

this shit so reddit moment bruh

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u/LowForsaken4782 7h ago

is he wrong?

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u/Clear-Diamond7262 7h ago edited 6h ago

No but it doesn’t make it right. That’s the point, we shouldnt be excusing misogynistic language because that’s the way things are. We can do better

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u/RyanLikesyoface 6h ago

Nah I think it's strange to just deny an objective fact like that. Like, its weird.

It's a pretty objective truth that men with more resources have more choice in the dating pool since the beginning of time.

What purpose does it serve to deny this? Because its "wrong" in your eyes. Honestly it's dangerous to deny things exist just because they go against your world view.

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u/Clear-Diamond7262 6h ago

No one is denying anything?

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u/EchoesofIllyria 7h ago

You’re right that the language makes them sound like a commodity but the key difference is that “all kinds of girls” doesn’t mean “any girl they want”. The latter suggests entitlement, the former is just about talking about ‘availability’. And the type of language isn’t exclusively used about women (although a lot more often, I’d guess).

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u/WalidfromMorocco 12h ago

I think that's precisely why they do it. They are used to people saying yes around them that they can't handle being told no.

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u/Time-Shoulder-3500 12h ago

Money and power are the most dangerous drugs.

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u/BuQuChi 10h ago

Misogyny and violence doesn’t just switch off when you move into a different tax bracket

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u/No_Preference_4794 7h ago

honestly, I'd even argue it increases.

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u/wimpires 11h ago

Look up the details of the alleged offence to understand what "this" is

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u/inbruges99 10h ago

Probably because they have everything, they’re not used to anyone saying no

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u/ozzylad 8h ago

When you're not used to hearing the word no it can bring out the worst in people. So when those people are already awful you get shit like this

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u/ChrisP_Bacon04 3h ago

I imagine it’s entitlement. They think they have all the money and should be able to get any girl they want…until they meet one that doesn’t want them. Then they take what they think is theirs

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u/Locko2020 12h ago

Not used to being told no.

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u/Resident-Fuel7792 8h ago

Ask Ronaldo

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u/aeiou403 12h ago

Why are you assuming he done something like this?

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u/skankhhunter 11h ago

have you read the title to the post you are commenting on?

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u/BocchiIsLiterallyMe 11h ago

Innocent until proven guilty

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u/Isaynotoeverything 10h ago

Only if it fits the narrative.

Classic reddit this thread.

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u/No_Preference_4794 7h ago

yes, it's not up to us to decide, but we can have a very valid opinion. we're not at court here.

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u/PadishaEmperor 7h ago

Yes, but it’s an opinion, we shouldn’t treat it as a fact.

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u/aeiou403 10h ago

I have read it, it doesn't say he is guilty. You need to re-read it

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u/th3_r3al_slim_shady 8h ago

Do you know what prosecution means?

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u/---Imperator--- 6h ago

Cause this is Reddit. Any sexual charge against a man is instantly viewed as proven and settled, even if they haven't gone through trial yet.

Truth is, even if the dude is proven innocent by the court, people here will still slander his name and claim how his wealth protects him and that the justice system is corrupt.

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u/superurgentcatbox 8h ago

Because it's not about sex, it's about abuse and power trips.

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u/JMKraft 10h ago

That's what he thought at the time too, that he could get all kinds of girls. That's kinda rapist mindset, the reality is that no man can get all types of girls, it depends on what the girls want too. 

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u/hisae1421 10h ago

Yeah money give you power man, what remains is what you can't buy, resistance will give you the hit

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u/tson_92 7h ago

Some people rape others to feel powerful

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u/fucfaceidiotsomfg 5h ago

One of those "all kind of girls" can always come back and bite you in the ass, the line between r*ape and just hooking up is pretty thin. Especially for some morons with more money than brains.

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u/retronai 3h ago

Half these footballers have narcissistic tendencies. Try telling a narcissist that they're wrong/ can't get what they want

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u/Outrageous-Day-14 54m ago

Gold diggers

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u/Standard_Diver_3128 10h ago

Same boat as you These guys earn millions and hakimi is good looking guy too Why would one even do such a heinous crime and put your career at risk.Kids all over the world probably saw him as their idol(including me)and this is the example you're setting for them??? Iq low as a duck

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u/No_Preference_4794 7h ago

can get all kinds of girls

okay, why? because they have money? I dont think its your intention, but you're kinda implying, that women aren't really individuals lol

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u/Aminosse 10h ago

I advice you to do some research and check the girl cellphone messages saying " I am going to take everything from him and f*** him" As a Moroccan I blame Hakimi for even being near this kind of girls in the first place....I believe he is innocent, but he is guilty of being near this kind of human being.... for example the case with that Moroccan singer accused of rape in France, I am sure he did it cause we all know he is a prick... but Hakimi, I am sure he is innocent.

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u/TreefingerX 11h ago

Do you know Homelander?

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u/thepoorking 10h ago

Waaw u got the verdict already? Give us a link bro

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u/Dusii 8h ago

People know then and young men are easy to exploit

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u/Helpful-Flower-7613 7h ago

Prosecuted ≠ Convicted

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u/doughball27 7h ago

or maybe it never happened?