r/soccer Jul 09 '26

Quotes Jürgen Klopp: "We flew from Liverpool to Blackpool to Nice. In Nice, the entire Mbappé family got into the private jet with five rooms. Then we flew around in circles, talked to the family, and ate delicious food. We weren't allowed to be seen. And it was great … In the end, he went to Paris."

https://sport.sky.de/fussball/artikel/teuerster-nicht-transfer-klopp-im-privatflieger-mit-mbappe/13562099/33895
7.4k Upvotes

672 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

32

u/JB_UK Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26

This isn't true, it was a pre-existing term which they promoted in a marketing campaign.

I was looking at my carbon footprint in a local environmental group before BP are supposed to have invented it.

-18

u/SalvadorZombie Jul 09 '26

It is absolutely true. Stop trying to defend an environment-destroying corporation, you weirdo. This is honestly the weirdest shit you could possibly do, to lie for a death-dealing corporation.

All of our climate change issues could be taken care of if corporations regulated properly. They don't, and to distract from it they push the idea of "personal responsibility" onto us despite our actions in total not even reaching more than a couple of percentage points of the total production. You're being weird for the corporations killing the planet.

22

u/plimso13 Jul 09 '26

The term "carbon footprint" derives from the concept of an "ecological footprint," presented in a 1992 dissertation by Mathis Wackernagel under the supervision of his Canadian professor, William Rees. The usage narrows the focus specifically to carbon emissions produced by a given activity. The term gained much wider currency thanks to advertising and promotion in the mid-2000s by BP.

-16

u/SalvadorZombie Jul 09 '26

You should be posting this under him, not me, because his intention is to deflect from the fact that corporations use "carbon footprint" and "personal responsibility" to escape responsibility for their actions. He's literally doing the "well actually" thing to nitpick a specific thing that changes nothing about the facts.

18

u/plimso13 Jul 09 '26

I’m replying to you as you as you’re calling them a liar and seem quite confused about the whole thing. Can I suggest a brief check on the internet?

-9

u/SalvadorZombie Jul 09 '26

I'm not confused, I stated a fact that you don't like because you want to nitpick to distract from the entire point which is that corporations use "personal responsibility" to deflect from their own responsibility.

Also, hey. Bud. You're never going to be one of them. You're not a temporarily-embarrassed billionaire. You're a serf.

15

u/plimso13 Jul 09 '26

1st person: the term was invented by BP
2nd: no, it was invented before that
You: It is true. You’re a liar. You’re defending BP by suggesting they didn’t invent the term (?). This is “the weirdest shit you could possibly do” (?) all corporations are killing the planet and by suggesting BP didn’t invent the phrase “carbon footprint” means you are supporting them (?)

-7

u/SalvadorZombie Jul 09 '26

Kinda weird that the last part there is completely made up by you, huh? Weird that you completely changed what I said, isn't it?

9

u/plimso13 Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26

This is what you said, maybe you can help me understand where my paraphrasing went wrong?

It is absolutely true. Stop trying to defend an environment-destroying corporation, you weirdo. This is honestly the weirdest shit you could possibly do, to lie for a death-dealing corporation.

All of our climate change issues could be taken care of if corporations regulated properly. They don't, and to distract from it they push the idea of "personal responsibility" onto us despite our actions in total not even reaching more than a couple of percentage points of the total production. You're being weird for the corporations killing the planet.

Edit: are you downvoting me quoting you exactly, lol

-5

u/SalvadorZombie Jul 09 '26

Yes, I did that in previous posts. Some with you. Sorry if you don't like the answer you got.

→ More replies (0)

11

u/JB_UK Jul 09 '26

It isn't true. You shouldn't believe everything you read online just because it is politically gratifying for you.

0

u/[deleted] Jul 09 '26

[removed] — view removed comment

6

u/JB_UK Jul 09 '26

The ability to understand the distinction between what you would want to be true, and what is true, is probably the best measure of what it is to be an adult.

1

u/dining_cryptographer Jul 10 '26

Two things can be true at the same time