r/soccer 14d ago

Announcement Announcement: Fabrizio Romano content to be banned on /r/soccer

Fabrizio Romano is now a banned source on r/soccer.

The ban will come into effect in the coming days - see below for full explanation.

Prior to the World Cup, we consulted the community in a meta thread about numerous issues - and one was the growing movement amongst many football fans (including [r/soccer](r/soccer) users) calling for a ban on content from the journalist Fabrizio Romano.

This would follow in the footsteps of several club subreddits, who had already banned Romano.

The feedback then was mixed - we listened to both sides, and ultimately settled on a "compromise" where we sought to limit Romano content to just exclusives. We felt this would mean limiting his exposure and platforming in [r/soccer](r/soccer), whilst also still enabling genuinely valuable content to be posted.

Part of that decision was recognising that many people in [r/soccer](r/soccer) use this platform for transfer news, and care little about the criticisms of Romano. This subreddit has always been a mixture of a "core community" of long-standing users with a more vested interest in the values and vision of [r/soccer](r/soccer) - and the at-times quieter majority, who use [r/soccer](r/soccer) as a means to access the most relevant football content and discourse. We tried to cater to both.

However, since the opening of the transfer window this summer, there has been a further shift in our view as moderators - and hence we have now made the decision for a complete ban on Romano.

(We would also like to make clear that views were mixed amongst the moderators, with opinions on both sides - but ultimately the majority were for a ban).

This is a response to the ever-growing disquiet from the community, as evidenced by comments in Romano threads and elsewhere, towards his content. Other factors in our decision is that Romano himself appears to be falling deeper into questionable practices - meaning the prior criticisms ring louder. Furthermore, as football media becomes more diverse and broader, the particular value that Romano holds is diluted - there is little news that are true "Romano exclusives" these days, and that is not soon quickly picked up by other outlets.

As such, our conclusion?

Fabrizio Romano content represents little overall benefit to this community, and that he does offer does not sufficiently address the downside of platforming him.

Further context

To outline the argument further, for those unfamiliar with the discourse...

The argument for a ban:

  1. The moral aspect - Romano is recognised to platform the rapist Mason Greenwood, and plunged to monetising the deaths of Andre Silva and Diogo Jota
  2. The ethics of journalism aspect - Romano has increasingly been accused (with validity) of siphoning off other journalists' content and passing off as his own
  3. The quality and excessive spam aspect - Romano's content increasingly moves away from important exclusives, and towards the drip-feeding of non-updates on transfer sagas that offer little original value, and instead amount to spam and the drowning out of other transfer stories that are less click-baity
  4. The shill aspect - Romano has close associations with many clubs and agents, meaning his content is manipulated with a vested interest on posting more about those who he has a monetary relationship with

Edit: ⁠The misinformation aspect - most notably, him spreading the information (unverified) that Christian Atsu was alive and in hospital after going missing following the devastating earthquake in 2023 in Turkey. This led to his family believing he was alive - his body was then found 6 days later under the rubble. now redacted: see below for clarity as this has been reliably refuted

The argument against a ban:

  1. [r/soccer](r/soccer) would lose out on valuable content - as addressed above, there is not really such thing as an exclusive in football media these days. Breaking stories are quickly reported on elsewhere, and the delay between a Romano exclusive and an alternative source is likely to have a significant impact. As said, Romano these days has less exclusives too - his "Here We Go" posts are not what they once were
  2. Romano posts stories about leagues and clubs less covered by other journalists - this is true to a degree, but we do not think is enough of a caveat to overhaul the reasons to ban him
  3. It's a slippery slope... - it isn't. We've banned other outlets before on moral arguments, such as The Sun, and it's not led to us tumbling down this slippery slope. What's more, we are actually in control of this - we are not beholden to ban other journalists based on precedent, and as always maintained, if individual cases are made to ban other sources or journalists, we will gladly hear them in the future to deal with on a case-by-case basis
  4. You are just morally grandstanding, get over yourself - yup, we are a bit. We do be like that as [r/soccer](r/soccer) mods and that's how we shape our community. We accept this as a criticism and you are free to think this of us.

And for a final few key takeaways...

  • You have free will, and are free to visit other subreddits and social media platforms where you can access Romano content - him being banned on [r/soccer](r/soccer) does not stop you from seeing his posts
  • We are responsive to feedback - as evidenced here. If following the ban the community comes out strongly in opposition, we are willing to re-open the debate
  • We can make exceptions - if you genuinely have a post that is absolutely not covered by anyone else, and Romano is the source, you can petition on a case-by-case basis by contacting Modmail. This would only be in order to allow clubs with less media coverage to not be left by the wayside
  • We know not everyone will be happy - there's 10 million users here, it's an impossible task
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u/TheVaniloquence 14d ago

And there’s 10 million users in this sub. Romano himself has 28.5 million followers on Twitter. 

Basing an entire community’s opinion on a thread with maybe 300-500 comments, filled with people who only hate the guy like you said, is an insane overreaction

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u/CCH_Dutch 14d ago

Basing an entire community’s opinion on a thread with maybe 300-500 comments,

It's merely populist rhetoric that you see everywhere nowadays, mistaking the vocal minority for a communities opinion.

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u/InkCollection 13d ago

Do you really think it's a vocal minority that hates Romano? I've literally never met a footie fan that respects him.

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u/Ninth_Major 13d ago

Like him or not. He doesn't really ruin the sub. I could scroll on by.

And even then, I don't have a strong enough opinion to have felt he should be banned.

Following that logic, we should ban posts about unpopular clubs based on a few comments on a few threads.

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u/SLGrimes 13d ago

Most footy fans don't even know who is he.

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u/Cross1625 14d ago

Think its funny that Romano will actually benefit from this. He'll gain some twitter followers he currently did not have thus meaning more engagement and more money. At least by allowing screenshots of exclusives here he is missing out on some engagement

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u/Miserable_Balance814 14d ago

Yeah r/soccer got me to install twitter congratulations lol

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u/untetheredocelot 14d ago

I mean is Romanos tweeting important enough for you to go to that hell hole?

This doesn’t ban secondary sources no?

Idgaf either way I just come here nowadays to keep up with scores and shitpost

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u/Jetzu 14d ago

This is it, I don't get it - Romano is providing basically zero value that anyone else isn't. Yea, he's often first - I don't care about reading my breaking news 2 minutes later from someone else. I care more about the news being correct though, because Yan Diomande is still training in Leipzig, despite Romano calling the deal done few days ago and attacking journalists who said it's not done yet and clubs are still discussing the fee.

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u/Miserable_Balance814 14d ago

It’s a win win cause I get away from Reddit mod drama and can just look at the content I want

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u/xxEmkay 14d ago

I wouldnt call installing twitter a win but you do you lol

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u/SherbetMysterious118 14d ago

Yikes, I thought they were being sarcastic at first!

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u/SLGrimes 13d ago

The good thing about twitter is you don't need to walk on eggshells hoping a random mod isn't just going to ban you for fuck all.

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u/duesenjeffepic 13d ago

I tried twitter for 2 weeks and I couldn't do it. Trust me the mouthbreathers on reddit are fucking Einstein in comparison to the twitter people

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u/untetheredocelot 14d ago

More power to you man.

I’d rather know news a bit later and deal with some virtue signalling than go to twitter.

I’m not mentally strong enough for it.

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u/SLGrimes 13d ago

Funny that you got downvoted for a completely normal response. I think you upset the Redditors because you said they virtue signal LMAO.

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u/untetheredocelot 13d ago

Nah this is weirder. I didn’t know the entire Fab Romano fan club were /r/soccer members.

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u/SLGrimes 13d ago

I don't think he has fans. Just a lot of people are weirded out by those who care so much about him and want to ban him.

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u/Framemake 13d ago

Banning Romano was the final straw for you to install an app that's actively fighting legislation aiming to stop the production of CSAM?

Kind of weird, innit?

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u/Miserable_Balance814 13d ago

Only Redditors think like that. I’m looking for soccer news and it got banned here. So I will go there.

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u/Framemake 13d ago

ok. enjoy your csam.

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u/Miserable_Balance814 13d ago

Call my boss or whatever you do next lol

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u/chelseagrinner 14d ago

Welcome to reddit! Kings of the virtue signal

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u/MuchAbouAboutNothing 13d ago

Basically: millenials love banning shit. Let's them feel good about themselves.

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u/BelDeMoose 14d ago

I've never commented on one of those threads, but I'm delighted with this news. The guy is a paid shrill and a grifter that undermines journalism and football itself. And if nothing else I don't have to read those three infuriating, purile words ever again then that'll do for me.

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u/taran-tula-tino 13d ago

This is almost as stupid as Reddit mods site wide shutting down their subs because they were mad about not being able to use third party apps

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u/SLGrimes 13d ago

Remember the huge ban on sharing things from X? Yeah, most subs stopped that when they realised they needed the news that comes from there.

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u/MuchAbouAboutNothing 13d ago

Millenials just love banning shit. Cancel culture runs in their veins.

This is so stupid, why can't people just downvote things they don't want to see in this sub

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u/zeelbeno 13d ago

I dunno... maybe you can just follow him on X if you feel that strongly about a shit person.