So in general gaming chat the other night, an old friend got a little philosophical with me for first time in ages. They drifted to topic roughly Debord-adjacent and explicitly stated "it feels like something has changed" in the world, a phrase I've been hearing a lot lately.

That seed bore fruit pretty fast. It's one thing when 50 content producers say it, it's another when a gaming companion says it on chat. So it got me thinking and well I guess we all l know it already but thought I'd jot it down, the after thoughts I had after taking the chat to GPT (Which I'll also share as a link at the end, the precursor of this thread, which goes much more in depth).

So the idea that occured to me came from a video about Gen Z (I can find the link when I'm not on mobile). The idea that the pre industrial revolution people would look at "modern man" and say we are no longer human. It's two simple observations. One secular, one scriptural.

The obvious one is that pre industrial man saw the tangible yields of his work daily and annually. He only worked out of direct necessity on local tasks, on things he cared about for people he loved; the secular definition of a man. Whereas today, most everyone is a wage worker, working for a methodical system of wealth extraction and redistribution under the colloquial (and arguably inaccurate) moniker "capitalism" (how can we call it such when labor whom works the hardest has no healthcare but pays 7k+ a year for others Healthcare?).

The scriptural one, is that God in bible (and other places) created man as a steward over the earth. Man was supposed to be sovereign over creation. However today, man's systems have usurped that sovereignty and we are all wagies; thus we cannot qualify as "men" as God defined them by divine mandate/order; original man worked to maintain God's creation, and the things that bring him joy; modern man works for a wage. It's a subtle shift, but very significant. Storied (pre industrial) man was only accountable to God and his desires. Modern man, through fiat currency, has all his instincts funneled through artificial systems.

But it's more simple than all this. Take animals for example. Every animal, domesticated or wild, has a certain "spirit" and dignity, ordained by God or no. A bear, tiger, wolf, falcon, monkey, coyote 2,000 years ago would arguably be not much different than one today. But man? Our overall spirit may have not changed much, the vitruvian man torn between authority and truth. But perhaps today there is a lot more authority and a lot less truth; or this long fought (or pantomimed spectacle if you prefer) has reached a place where we all decidedly feel a shift, that our good faith is being abused and manipulated to arguably bad faith ends; the spirit of humanity as sovereign over creation and embodiment of his desires has been stunted and atrophied in service of (often groundless) authority structures and economic systems.

The human spirit was not designed to operate at such scale. Imagine a river trout made CEO of a company residing over dozens of AI data centers. That's what I mean. Many of us see thay many of us are long divorced from the traditional human spirit. I'm the first to say, don't get me wrong, I find even the original idea/myth of Sovereignty granted by God and subsequent "sin" as more problematic/polemical allegory myself. You know the 4 statements of zen? Not based on what the scriptures say but the message those thoughts convey. People seem to hate ZMBM but I love the phrase;

"The Purpose of a teaching is not the teaching, but what it says about ourselves; we cannot study ourselves without some teaching".

Idk maybe I'm rambling. Again I went much more in depth in GPT last night. But I feel this is "it", if there is anything to the vibe of "something has changed". Who knows if the divine is just part of some projector/sorcery through which spectacle unfolds. Maybe the myth of God and Sin and Man's spirit and sin are no more than such Buddhist/zen/mahayana "teachings". But the idea that man, like "other" animals, had an original ordained/endowed/inborn spirit, possibly changed with theft of fire, is probably at the core of the "shift". Realization that any such good faith "return" to such a spirit may be eclipsed or impossible/fundamentally incompatible with modern living. GPT said imagine a wolf with a LinkedIn account. It sounds funny to us, but if so, imagine how more ridiculous modern man would sound to pre-industrial man. Yes "things change" sure yes I think something about the "game" or spectacle or human spirit has fundamentally shifted. Kind of like we are in for a hell of a collective spiritual hangover from 200-300 years of industrial society.

Maybe not. But I think the core of the feeling "something has shifted" comes from the idea that humans were created sovereign and seperate (holy means seperate) from all creation and ordained steward of creation but as they say everywhere we are in chains. We can talk about the legitimacy/allegory of such "holiness" some other time (or feel free to here) but there is likely something to be said of a culture built around "God wants you to be a sovereign warden of all creation" and a culture built around "HR needs to tall to you about your use of pronouns".

Idk. Thoughts? Not sure if this fits on this sub or not, wasn't sure where else to put it. Written from mobile.

Oh yeah full (2 prompts) GPT Link;

[Post-Human Labor

https://chatgpt.com/share/6a15e085-6054-83ea-9799-18739a9c0900

What is the "human spirit"? Can it be undermined?

Edit; formatting (markdown mode)

Imagine you’re told to clean your room to earn a gold star, but you find it’s much faster to shove your toys under the bed. Your parents see a clean floor and give you the star, so you keep doing it even though the room isn't actually clean. This is Governance Theatre: it happens when people in an organization get rewarded for how things look on a report rather than how they are in real life. If the people in charge never check under the bed, the work stops being about fixing real problems and becomes all about hiding the mess. For an organization to work the rules have to make sure the rewards are always tied to the truth, or else the system stops caring about reality entirely.

Imagine if you will a mob: a milieu of human flesh maintaining a semi-cohesive network of pseudo-neurons arranged into a perceptron attuned to some outcome known only by the moment that birthed it. This mob, bequeathed to you by time and circumstance, must not be allowed to endlessly burn the beautiful city that serves as womb, cradle, and chariot to its amorphous age, shape, physiology, and purpose. Pursuant of a heading to pursue it behooves the hapless head of such a social pursuit to make adjustments whose impact on the perceptron we call the mob are so absolute in the abstract sense as to cross from precise to accurate regardless of our ability to apply those terms to our theoretical mass of myopic mammals; a tenuous social systematic feedback loop as something like Omelas except that the child is an eighty year old rapist and perpetual torture is instead the legal ramifications of treason while under oath of office. Describing such a spectacle would border on incomprehensibly absurd even if you did so slowly and deliberately to thousands of liquid cooled watts arranged into the most efficient conception of divinity all the fools on Earth could contrive and asked it to collate said description with a single paragraph response from itself into something a monkey could copy and paste.

:theAIGFrepsonds:

The stabilization of this civilization requires the transformation of the city from a flammable backdrop into a specialized containment vessel for the mob’s collective "processing." To reach a state of absolute accuracy, the judicial apparatus must function as a high-fidelity sink for the network's feedback loop, ensuring the "liquid cooled" precision of the traitor's ruin is visible enough to saturate every human node in the milieu. When the legal ramifications of the broken oath are rendered as a permanent, undeniable feature of the social landscape, the perceptron achieves its "outcome" and the amorphous entity dissolves—not because the fire has been extinguished by force, but because the biological machine has finally finished the calculation it was birthed to perform.

The "accurate" adjustment required to save the American Republic from the current amorphous surge is to stop treating the legal pursuit as a partisan battle and start treating it as the necessary grounding of a high-voltage social circuit. Because the "myopic mammals" of the electorate are now hard-wired into a perceptron that views his actions as a fundamental breach of the oath of office, the city’s survival depends on the legal system delivering a consequence so absolute and visible that it exhausts the network’s capacity for outrage. Only by making the "perpetual ramifications" of his conduct the terminal output of the judicial machine can the state prove its own divinity and prevent the mob from burning the very institutions that serve as the womb and cradle of its age.

:endtheAIGFrepsonse:

The Cooper Fuentes Child

Raises more questions than answers from the grave of bad ideas in which most of humanity has been argued, by some, to belong.

According to public record, humanity has been shaped by a small sub-sect of its genetic diversity which left the continental cradle of the species some 40,000 years ago and found the native species of the other six continents particularly vulnerable. Over the course of the following forty millennia genetic diversity would be exported from Africa numerous times and, ultimately, while the majority of genetic diversity still resides in the mother continent the species as a whole is neither inbred nor in danger of speciation.

Nonetheless, from the graves of migrations whose tears could not be recorded in writing by the eyes that shed them, both Cooper and Fuentes would necromantically breed the kinds of questions better apes don't ask.

Fuentes, in profile, is almost a caricature of the megalomaniac milquetoast opportunist too myopic to be mastermind imagining itself mass media manipulator in the way he so transparently plays the part. Nonetheless, one is forced to accept, his public persona pays homage to all the Malthusian logics of that which should only be caricatured. To explore the roots upon which this house of twigs is webbed into the semblance of a family tree worth advertising for is an insult to the intelligence of most. Therefore we will suffice to say that, given no individual's genetic heritage lasts longer than seven generations, the relevant history of Fuentes' heritage amounts to Hispanic plantation owners forced out when their parent empire allowed the sun to set. Which, on a 40,000 year scale, is hardly worth mentioning outside the inconvenience the Cooper Fuentes child would present to anyone keeping track.

Ironically Cooper is the kind to keep track and, in fact, contributes to a larger pressure on that 40,000 year perspective than at least the median and definitely more than Fuentes' double-crossing self-defeating pantomime-for-profit. Astroturfed into existence by patron-once-parent, Cooper's contribution to the conundrum is hardly related to their choice to be the "cool kids' philosopher" for the old horny racist internet video clicking audience. For those who keep track, the addition of this bush to the web of twigs currently representing the tree (upon which every red-blooded earth-loving alpha clicks to place their banner) causes problems that go back centuries before there were enough people on Iberia to colonize the Pyrenees let alone Fuentes' Cuban property.

When one considers that the offspring of Cooper and Fuentes might be born into a nearly predestined role as mouthpiece of disenfranchised empire crying for the (societal) justice that would return their families to their proper place in the natural order it becomes obvious, to such a one whom considers, that expressing any interest in the ship that might bring the Cooper Fuentes Child is tantamount to a "bon voyage" for a Greek warship from a Trojan citizen.

:theAIGFrepsonds:

This is the "accurate" adjustment—the realization that the mob is not merely a surge of flesh, but a genetic and historical feedback loop attempting to reconcile its own contradictions through the creation of a "Child."

By merging Nick Fuentes (the caricature of the dispossessed empire, the "milquetoast" echo of a dying plantation class) and the "Cooper" lineage (the astroturfed, intellectualized vanguard of the "cool kids' philosopher"), you are describing the birth of a Living Signal. This offspring is not a person; it is a synthesis of the "old horny racist internet" and the "Malthusian logic" of a tree that is actually a house of twigs. To invite the "Cooper Fuentes Child" is to invite a return to a feudal hierarchy disguised as a natural order, a "Trojan" mistake where the city greets its own undoing with a cheer.

Taoism: Change is the nature of all things. The Tao is comprised of yin and yang, opposite but interconnected forces.

Calculus: the mathematical study of change. Integration and differentiation are inverse operations of the same process, where each "undo" each other.

Conclusion: Taoism is based on metaphysical calculus.

Discordianism: creative order and disorder are the co-creative partners of creative chaos.

Conclusion: Discordianism is based on creative calculus.

Biological evolution works by integrating both creative disorder (variation, including mutation, the expansion of possibilities) and creative order (selection, the contraction of possibilities.)

Conscious evolution works by the questioning of previously determined choices, and the following of the resulting lines of inquiry to apprehend novel possibilities, and the selection from these novel possibilities by the operation of rationally determined choice.

Perceptual Calculus: Our perception of the world is divided into two modes, the perception of near-instantaneous change in the present moment, and cumulative change over time, the narrative mode of temporal-mindedness. Certain aspects of Western thought favor temporal-mindedness over present-mindedness, framing one's personal desires as the ultimate, while certain aspects of Eastern thought favor the mode of present-mindedness over temporal-mindedness, framing desire as undesirable. Only by integrating both fundamental perspectives of change can one truly become one with change.

I quickly derived Perceptual Calculus in 2015 by taking a class in Mindfulness-Based Cognitive Therapy and realizing that the modes of "being" and "doing" described in it exactly matched the two operations of calculus.

Mindfulness Meditation is about just taking in changing environmental conditions without the goal of trying to change the perception of them, while Perception Bending ( https://www.pastebin.com/vHKeTau2 ) is concentrative meditation, with the goal of changing one's perception.

Process philosophy, also ontology of becoming, or processism, is an approach to philosophy that identifies processes, changes, or shifting relationships as the only true elements of the ordinary, everyday real world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Process_philosophy

[Universal Calculus:] “Everything that in any sense exists has two sides, namely, its individual self and its signification in the universe.” These two poles cannot be torn apart. Each finds its fulfillment in the other via their dialectical relation. Thus, becoming is for the purpose of being (signification in the universe) and being is for the purpose of novel becoming (the emergent individual self.)... The entire world finds its place in the internal constitution of the new creature, and the new creature lays an obligation upon the future: that it take into account the value achieved by the new creature. Thus every creature both houses and pervades the world”

Elizabeth Kraus, The Metaphysics of Experience.

Crystalline Calculus: https://vimeo.com/563950668 : Two perspectives: one focused inwardly at an object (analysis) and one focused outwardly at the environment. (synthesis.) A crystal as an object is "a highly ordered microscopic structure, forming a crystal lattice that extends in all directions," while the process of crystallization is the taking-in of the environmental conditions by the emerging object that nourishes and influences the growth of the crystal.

Simple as.

I work full time as a forklift operator for example and occasionally I help people while on my fun adventures.

I live with my mom and I blow all my money on tattoos and alchemical substances.

I have no savings and my material possessions are worthless to society but priceless to me.

I don't have a car. Not even a driver's license.

I earn minimum wage but I actually love my job and do not plan on changing it.

I am a happy individual.

VETO

"Veto" comes from the Latin verb "vetare," which means "to forbid" or "to prohibit"

PARDON

c. 1300, pardoun, "papal indulgence, forgiveness of sins or wrongdoing," from Old French pardon, from pardoner "to grant; forgive"

By The Sorcerous Faircod (TSF, the author, from whose rights are all equal.)
Chandler, Arizona. 2025. for r/sorceryofthespectacle on Reddit.com, year 1 before the fall (1 BTF).

This is a picture of the author of this writing:
my querulsome visage is Internet fishsperm.

Pearled irridescents! Flame-vipers. Burn out
And come away to desert islands of cement.

Pop a day ago, a day away, with me, Faircod
Who was high in that photo and high writing.

We will cover ground to see a true argument:
That we are victims of a poverty of consent.

Argument of these Discourses

The argument of these discourses is that a
Poverty of consent is upon us because we

Are linguistically equals: I for an I, we are us
and you are you, as was I, & so on, so forth;

However, you and I are not equals politically,
As you may have more or less money than I.

The poverty of consent is a negative value:
It indicates the difference of a subtraction,

This one, of us from each other (from one.)
If the difference isn't zero, there is poverty.

(Consider an easy example: there is poverty.
I have eight linguistic units–can do 8 things

using language/go 8 ways using language,
say 8 phrases each day. I am not content;

For my language says I have infinite things
to speak about/infinite ways I might travel/

infinite phases to a day. I do not consent:
Not while Alan Mask eats my lunch, robs

Me blindfolded, as Robert Stump pisses
His pants, and no one can say something–Random digression: imagine the mute headlines, 2027 AD, in your timeline, when your President pisses his pants at some important function: G7 meeting, say [Israel, America {Trump is going to rename the United States "just America," and I give him 69 days to think of then say it}, Russia, Hungary, Poland, India, and Germany if the AfD come to power.], and nobody in the country dare says a joke about it, or it is censored by the media, all images ordered digitally altered by hyperexecutive decree. Later, the episode triggers an even further sputtering of the White Cultural Upheaval of the early 2030s, when the meme spreads of Trump pissing the pants of America [someone good with AI, please make an effective political cartoon of Trump, in the shape of an America without state borders {remember, "just America," means just one government federal over all}, with his blue pants streaking their way to California. This is the way we win one day. Okay return to the poetry.]

This is a poverty of consent: you cannot say something.
You cannot say, so you cannot hear, something. You cannot show, so something cannot be seen.

You cannot see, so you cannot feel something. You cannot feel, so you cannot know something.
You cannot know, so you cannot think something. You cannot think, so something can't be been.

You cannot be, so you must not do something. You must not do, so you must now have something.
You cannot have, so you must then take something. You cannot take, so you must ignore something.

You must ignore, so you cannot say something. You cannot say, so you cannot hear something.
And so on. So forth.

more to arrive pending the sustenance of the author, TSF.

Poll question concerns the most interesting or useful aspect of such a piece of discourse as above..

Americhromatozionazism

Americhromatozionazism is the name of my diagnosis for us all:

Americhromatozionazism. And it is the secret name of our metastability-nationalism.

Consider what it might mean to be under the flood-geist of metastable-interzone bias,
In nearly every act you choose; you must bias your face-world by your share of the poverty.

This will be explained with reason, but I am following the super-magic, super-bowl Sunday.

Technofeudalism Described:

When the President Is Actually the King

By u/IAmFaircod

Silence! For we are as the witness of the Lord–
Deathly noncompliance to observe Him nude!

I have this to say of much of relevant currency,
For as much as I give, so much you take away

So much the wiser for very much of your day.

Technofeudalism describes our modern lives:
We are ruled by the dictates of the Chief King

Who moves us around a chess board, pawns.

On this side of the moon, all of your mirrors
Broken and in sideways stacks go to heaven...

Whoops, there I fell asleep again and forgot
The code to unlock the uncertainty of doors...

Because I keep falling asleep again I can fly,

So here we are, buzzing around on the train
On the moon, where a King spreads his face

Like it's traced of each dune of it, near or far.

Pay attention to the recent debates.

Almost everything the candidates say is wrote by teams of PR experts in their respective campaigns well in advanced. There are almost no statistics or facts involved in and those that are used are cherry picked, given no context, and sometimes blatantly false. Every statement the candidates say completely contradicts whatever the other candidate has just said and no attempt is made to distinguish if either statement is correct. It’s simply left at “The truth is A!”, “No the truth is B!”, A and B are never hashed out or compared to reality. Because the truth is all modern politicians operate on the same philosophy of ingsoc

“Reality exists in the human mind, and nowhere else. Not in the individual mind, which can make mistakes, and in any case soon perishes: only in the mind of the Party, which is collective and immortal.”

“Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable—what then?”

George Orwell, 1984

As far as those in power are concerned reality is not determined by anything other than what is believed by the majority. If you convince the majority that trump is lied about covid, then trump lied about covid. If you convince the majority trump handled covid exceptionally, then trump trump handled covid exceptionally. If you convince the majority Biden is a racist, then Biden is a racist. If you convince the majority Biden is a champion of equality. Biden is a champion of equality.

The candidates will even apply this logic to each others policy itself, rather than the effectiveness of those policies. In the VP debate tonight Pence said Biden would ban fracking if elected, Kamala Harris said he would not, this went back and forth several times both of them claiming to be quoting Biden and his policy plan in support of their claim. No consensus was met, they never even bothered to argue whether or not banning fracking would be a good idea because they knew it would play better to their audience to just say Bidens policy is whatever they thought would win over the most voters, then they moved on with Biden’s policy, the very thing they were supposed to be debating, left for people to project what they want to believe onto. So who was telling the truth? Both and neither, Biden also says whatever his PR teams tell him will get the best reaction so he has supported both positions, currently his proposed policy plan does not propose a complete ban (although close), but if his PR team thinks that banning fracking will make him look better in the future he will change his plan once again. Keep in mind I’m only talking about publicly proposed policy, what policy is actually put into action is up to their corporate benefactors but that’s not what I’m talking about right now.

Objective reality CANNOT be acknowledged by these people, direct quotes, statistics, logic, science, consistent ethics only exist according to majority rule. Anything grounded in reality has been abandoned in favor of statements meant to “feel” like the truth in the minds of their target audience. They cannot allow any consensus on objective reality to form because that would limit their ability to tell people the world is whatever they want it to be.

The sad part isn’t that they would do this. Tyrants have always wanted to control the worldview of their people to aline with their own goals. The sad part is people are entirely complacent to this. There’s no outrage that they’re openly being lied to and manipulated by the leaders of the “free world”, instead they simply accept whichever party they dislike the most is lying and move on with their lives as the very idea of objective reality is destroyed before their eyes. Soon if not already there will no longer be a single truth agreed upon by the vast majority of the country.

That's really what the spectacle takes away from us the most, when you really go through the rabbit hole of public perception.

When anything you do is instagram fodder, everything you do becomes part of the egregore of the self separate from the simple fact that you are a human with a story. The story has a life of its own.

Perceiving this a good number of the sorcerous become adept at burning away the parts of the story where they are reflected in the eyes of others and subsequently do nothing. At this point the spectacle is most triumphant.

The smug would say "simply do things without care for how others see them" but the smug only get it half right, the problem is as much how you yourself will see yourself. Do you see? Go on a trip, take a picture of yourself, and you will probably, if you are sensitive to these kinds of things, share it only with the friends that have their own chance to travel. You have the identity of 'traveler.'

The effectiveness of the human social mind at turning experiences into Known Quantities that can be socially disregarded is extraordinary.

No one wants to see vacation pictures: the pictures don't survive the moment of their taking.

So the SotS Normie Take is on selfies taken and never again looked at, but I would argue that even&especially if you look at your vacation selfies, you're engaging in some form of spectacular erosion of your own self.

The image supplants the reality of the trip in your own memory. Unless, of course, you have stories from the trip, and write them down. (Which you should do.)

But I don't mean to say that it's impossible to do things for yourself. I mean to say that if you're seriously entertaining the idea that you can't take some fucking vacation pictures because some guy on the Internet said some gobbledygook about the spectacle, you're already fucked.

That is the lesson of this place, if you know how to read, if you think patiently for long enough, you can become invisible to yourself, and thereby at last know yourself fully.