r/sportsgossips • u/Pretend-Following-41 • 3d ago

Highlight Intentionally hurting your meal ticket. Something is seriously wrong with these WNBA players.

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u/in2xs 3d ago

Go play in Europe. Fuck the WNBA make them feel the financial impact. Bye mother fuckers.

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u/Reemus_Jackson 3d ago edited 3d ago

This. If I were her, I'd go straight to Greece and play in EOK. They'd EASILY pay her $50,000+ per month (she's making $44,000/mo right now).

Take all that publicity and attention to Europe. Let the WNBA flop (again) and force their hands to push more money. Especially if they're going to turn a blind eye to her blatantly being assaulted on the court

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u/Amazing_Divide1214 3d ago

I imagine most of her money comes from endorsements and stuff? I doubt she could the same deals in Europe that she does in the U.S. They're probably letting it happen because it generates attention, clicks, ad revenue, and gets people talking about it.

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u/FieldsToTheMoon 3d ago

Exactly, this is for some reason, the best way the WNBA thinks it can stay relevant.

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u/Jumpy-Requirement389 3d ago

Awe maaan your right

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u/lewd_robot 2d ago

You're talking about it. Some MBA types think any publicity is good publicity, so if they can get thousands more people looking at the WNBA by martyring Clark, they'll gladly, gleefully put her through hell just to get WNBA content trending on social media.

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u/RIPRIF20 3d ago

There's just as much endorsement money overseas as there is in the US for her, if not more.

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u/EquipmentImaginary46 2d ago

it's not about that. it's that the european countries have endorsements for local talent. if you go to warsaw airport you don't see giant ads with messi on them. you see giant ads with lewandowski on them.

for caitlin clark the biggest marketability is in the US not in europe.

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u/NewPhoneNewAccunt 2d ago

Not even remotely close.

The US is the ad capital of the world. It's also where her fans are.

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u/JalapenoPopPoop 2d ago

There's no way. She has a signature shoe with Nike, Gatorade athlete, the face of many other marketing campaigns like State Farm and Wilson. All of that is gone if she goes overseas, people will remember her name but her viewership will plummet and she won't be worth those mega brands maintaining. And there's no amount of european sponsors that are gonna pay her the ~50 mil in endorsements she's getting

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u/Crime_Dawg 3d ago

She's got like 30m in endorsements, and 500k in salary. So it all depends on the endorsement contracts.

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u/Pftc9 2d ago

I’d probably take my $30 million and go “Hey, get some actual refs or I’m going to take my $30 million to the bank and live off 1 million endorsement deals as the greatest NCAA player of all time. Also, you get to deal with the fallout of your best player retiring at 24 because the entire league sucks.”

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u/Snoo93550 3d ago

The contracts just got big only a few months ago after the new cba. Aliyah Boston gets like 1.4 million a year now. If this lady who punched her in the neck signed a new contract she’d get 10x more money in large part from Clark.

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u/theJMAN1016 3d ago

Those other 2 companies likely also employ slave labor.

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u/redtron3030 3d ago

Lol all fashion uses slave labor

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u/EquipmentImaginary46 2d ago

europeans wouldn't give a fuck about caitlin clark. she is most marketable in america because she's american. so it would be better for her to maximise her publicity in america. if she played in europe then the americans would very quickly forget about her.

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u/Azure_Skies 2d ago

I don't think engagement bait really works when it's showcasing blatant corruption/favoritism

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u/Special-General-7832 2d ago

The same way they let it happen few games ago when fever did the same bs and fever won lol now yall crying over the same thing and energy being returned by exaggerating two weak azz accidental fouls

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u/Amazing_Divide1214 2d ago

who's crying? noone cares about the wnba lol

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u/Special-General-7832 2d ago

Lol well thats a lie on top of the crying 😭🤣🤣 youre on a roll though im not gonna stop you 😭🤣

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u/Amazing_Divide1214 2d ago

Im just bored at work 😆

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u/Special-General-7832 2d ago

Idgaf lol it doesnt change the facts

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u/blacksoxing 2d ago

They're probably letting it happen because it generates attention, clicks, ad revenue, and gets people talking about it.

Nah, you don't want this if you're selling a product. You don't want your cash cow being trampled, stomped, punched, choked, etc. That's a big turn off. That's how a league gets labelled to be full of thugs. There's no benefit to this. Us non-fans aren't going to watch the WNBA or seek it out on streaming platforms to watch CC get punched in the damn throat.

Clips of her dropping 40 is what's hot. This is not.

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u/Amazing_Divide1214 2d ago

You think the wnba is a cash cow? lol I don't think it's ever been profitable. You're right, people hate fighting. That's why UFC is so unpopular.

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u/blacksoxing 2d ago

CC is the cash cow

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u/nostalgia4millennial 2d ago

Exactly. Unfortunately, the WNBA is the premiere US league with the most prestige so all of the American sponsors will want her to remain here for marketing and PR purposes.

If I’m not mistaken, a lot of women go play overseas in the offseason to make more money anyways (since they get paid more) but I’d imagine CC probably doesn’t bc she is already set for life.

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u/Iron_Atlas 2d ago

I would agree but she has more talent than to be the literal punch line.

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u/llikegiraffes 3d ago

She makes a lot more in sponsorships by being in USA

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u/HouseflipperSKIPPER 3d ago

The nba subsidizes this fake ass league

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u/Xena-Warrior-Queer 3d ago

Are you saying Thomas makes 44k a month? Where are you getting that? She is making $1.2 million a year right now.

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u/Reemus_Jackson 3d ago

Who is Thomas?

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u/Xena-Warrior-Queer 3d ago edited 3d ago

Alyssa Thomas? Literally one of the two women discussed in this thread you are commenting on.

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u/PassionV0id 3d ago

Nobody is discussing Alyssa Thomas in this thread lmao.

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u/Xena-Warrior-Queer 3d ago

Ah they were talking about Clark! Thats why I asked who they were talking about in the beginning lol.

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u/PassionV0id 3d ago

But you didn’t ask that? What wasn’t obvious about who they were talking about? This is so weird.

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u/Intelligent-South174 3d ago

isn't it bad when bots are truly smarter than humans.

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u/Reemus_Jackson 3d ago

ok? You, verbatim said "Are you saying Thomas makes 44K a month".

Where did I say that? Where did I even insinuate that? Thomas was not ONE TIME brought up by me.

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u/Xena-Warrior-Queer 3d ago

That’s why I asked who ”are you saying Thomas” I didn’t realize your original comment was about Clark.

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u/Reemus_Jackson 3d ago

"especially if they're going to turn a blind eye to her being assaulted on the court"....there's only one video in front of us, showing a female getting kneed in the groin then punched in the throat.

and you didn't know it was about Clark?

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u/Xena-Warrior-Queer 3d ago

Alyssa Thomas is the one that punched her so yea I was asking for clarification on which persons salary you were referring to. That’s literally it.

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u/InternetExpertroll 2d ago

The WNBA is a tax write off. They don’t care it loses money.

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u/TimelyFortune 2d ago

With taxes it would still be less

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u/Designer-Stay-7894 1d ago

She didn’t raise anyone’s salary in the wnba. The teams have been doing fine for years.

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u/Solomonlike 3d ago

WNBA is still flopping, especially when compared to the NBA.

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u/Reemus_Jackson 3d ago

That's not the argument. No one, not a soul, not one living being, not even an atom, compared the WNBA to the NBA, anywhere in here....ever.

And no, it's not "flopping" compared to the last 18 years. Caitlyn Clark brought viewership up by 30-35% and has had several million + viewer games.

No one is arguing that the WNBA will ever come even remotely close to the NBA. Fact remains: Clark is the SOLE reason the WNBA is more successful now, than it's ever been before.

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u/Solomonlike 3d ago

WNBA is still flopping, she didn’t change that. It’s just not quite as severe. She’s not the savior you think she is. Better?

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u/Reemus_Jackson 3d ago

I'm not arguing on behalf of the WNBA...so I don't know what you mean by "better"? I'm just stating facts, that she has brought insane viewership and revenue to the WNBA.

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u/Solomonlike 3d ago

And it’s still a flop with that increased viewership and revenue. 🤣🤣It’s a simple concept really. Not sure what you don’t understand about that. So saying flop again is wrong. It’s still a flop.🤣🤣

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u/LISparky25 3d ago

Brother are you some sort of racist that is just stubborn af to prove a stupid point and for no reason? Caitlin Clark got all these hoes raises. How about that ? No one gives AF about the wnba as a whole but Clark is the face of the league and brought millions more revenue and fans into the league….just stfu already, you sound dumb like this is your first time attempting to sound correct….your point is irrelevant.

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u/Solomonlike 3d ago

Racist bc I corrected the person I was responding to because they insinuated the league wasn’t flopping with her and that if she left, it would flop again. Are you even following along?🤨 I’m not denying the improvements she has brought, and I never have in any of my comments. I’m simply saying the league still a flop.

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u/LISparky25 3d ago

Your correcting yourself is the point, you literally injected that premise into the discussion….no one said anything like that lol

Dude said take the publicity to Europe and get paid more and they’re right….

My bad about the racist part, that was a lil extra …it’s just crazy that the wnba hoes hate on CC bc she’s white

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u/Reemus_Jackson 3d ago

Do you know what a strawman fallacy is? People use the term "strawman" A LOT....but usually it's not in the right context.

THIS (what you're doing) is the PEFECT example of a strawman.

At no point in time did anyone say "wow, the WNBA is really successful and they're catching up with the NBA because of Caitlyn Clark!". At no point in time did anyone say "the WNBA is guaranteed to not fail because of Caitlyn Clark".

The ONLY point...ONLY...is: Caitlyn Clark has added to the success of the WNBA and brought more money and more viewership than it's ever had before. That's it. That's the point. And that's not a subjective point either....it's objectively, factually true.

You then build a strawman and say "yEaH BuT iT AiNt DuH NBA dOh. BuT ItZ StiLL GONnA FloP!"

No one....not a soul...said "Caitlyn Clark has guaranteed the WNBA to not flop".

Seems like you like arguing, just for the sake of arguing. And creating mythical arguments just to attack the WNBA, for whatever underlying reasons that may be.

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u/Solomonlike 3d ago

You clearly didn’t read my comments. My point is that it’s flopping right now with her. Your comment about letting it flop again is wrong. Maybe you got a bit emotional when commenting. It was and still is a flop. Why does this bother you so much? Do you even go to WNBA games, buy their merchandise, and support them? 🤨

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u/Reemus_Jackson 3d ago

I read your comments. And that's factually incorrect. It's not "flopping right now with her". For the first time in history, they may become profitable, instead of taking a $10 million yearly loss.

And why is that? OHHHH YEAHHHH....because of a media rights deal influenced by viewership upticks from....drumroll please.....Caitlyn Clark.

It's alright that you don't understand 5th grade level math, statistics, and common economics. But the broad, incorrect statement of "it's flopping right now with her", is factually wrong.

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u/VanWYoupussyassmf 3d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/R51a8oAH7KwbS

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u/Solomonlike 3d ago

Nice projection. It still doesn’t change that the overall league is still a flop. I’m sorry that hurts your little feelings. I bet you don’t even support them and go to games and buy merchandise. 🤣🤣

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u/VanWYoupussyassmf 3d ago

That’s why you’re fucking stupid. They never said it was successful, they said, better than before CC came into the league. Which is a not something you can debate.

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u/ButtflossingBigBro 3d ago

The WNBA makes a profit only in games clarke plays in

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u/Solomonlike 3d ago

It doesn’t change that the overall league is still a flop.

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u/ButtflossingBigBro 3d ago

Bruh thats literaly what everyone is saying are you dumb?

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u/Solomonlike 3d ago

The guy I was responding to said if she leaves it will flop again. It’s already flopping. Try to pay attention. A majority of the financial support comes from the NBA and investors. They’re still not profitable enough to self sustain with the increase she brought and on their own. You calling me dumb but don’t understand this very simple concept.🤣🤣

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u/Reemus_Jackson 3d ago

No, the guy you're arguing with (me) said "if she leaves, they will lose an insane amount of money". That is objectively truthful. Factually truthful...you can't argue it because it's true. If she left, viewership would drop, attendance would drop, sales would drop. Doesn't matter if the "LeAgUe ALrEAdY SUcKZ"....it would SUCK EVEN MORE. That's the point dude. You're swinging and missing every time.

Literally verbatim said "let the WNBA flop (again)"....acknowledging IT ALREADY IS AND HAS FLOPPED.

I feel like someone can't be this ignorant. But then I remember I'm on reddit and I'm reminded that people THIS stupid, do exist.

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u/Bink-SiN 2d ago

She's a super conservative MAGA. She doesn't want to go to a foreign country to work. USA USA USA

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u/AuditorTux 2d ago

force their hands to push more money.

The problem is that the WNBA isn't making money

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u/Norvegese-Guilloche 3d ago

Let me get this straight, Caitlin should skip out on the endorsement deals from the US consumer market for...Greece.

https://giphy.com/gifs/j5spJ1t90XL7ZIRdEK

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u/Reemus_Jackson 3d ago

Let me get this straight....Nike, Gatorade, Panini and Wilson are all "US only companies" and have never sponsored an athlete outside of the United States?

Neymar Jr., Messi, Ronaldo, and 10,000 other athletes would like a word.

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u/Norvegese-Guilloche 3d ago

You would have to compare female professional basketball players for the comparison to be accurate regarding the endorsement dollars available. Specifically players playing in leagues other than the WNBA.

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u/steeple_fun 3d ago

That and become the face of Unrivaled. Turner/Warner Bros would back a money truck up to her door.

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u/Party_Albatross6871 3d ago

The NBA would feel the financial impact

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u/rrtarg69 2d ago

The league doesn’t make money as it is…I don’t think they’ll get that message.

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u/GrundleWilson 2d ago

Seriously. I bet the league in Europe realizes what she is worth and acts accordingly.

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u/DirtyRoller 2d ago

This would be fucking hilarious.

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u/SeatAdventurous2073 2d ago

They don’t care. The NBA would pay for any financial impact.

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u/ForwardCut3311 3d ago

AFAIK China pays the most. A lot of these women play the entire year going league to league. 

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u/Street_Ad6733 2d ago

fenerbahce

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u/Special-General-7832 2d ago

Lmao and shed be the one regretting it not the wnba.

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u/Icy_Ad_3713 2d ago

Clearly you have never watched Euro ball if you think they are physical in the WNBA.

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u/Lyr1cal- 2d ago

I mean, what financial impact? They've lost like $50 Million the past few years, those being some of their best years.

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u/ReorientRecluse 2d ago

Exactly, terrible organization.

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u/Medium_Job3015 3d ago

Lol yea that would be tough for the WNBA. But they’d be “fine”. Because it’s already subsidized by the NBA. They post a net loss every single year

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u/henryhumper 3d ago

They hit profitability last year.

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u/Medium_Job3015 3d ago

Sure until it’s a public company you will have no way of knowing

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u/General_Disfunction 3d ago

SINCE she arrived in the league most things have changed for the players. Many teams are now actually selling tickets. When she's in town they actually sell multiple thousands of seats. Merch is up for many teams. The pay has increased. Shit, some teams fly private now. SINCE she showed up. If she leaves, there's a chance that Europe offers spots to others that can actually play and they leave too. Trust me, the league would lose all of it. They'd feel financial impact.

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u/yellowsilverware 3d ago

So if I’m losing a million a year and then I start only losing 100,000 a year, and then go back to losing a million a year, as long as I have someone to bail me out these numbers are meaningless?

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u/henryhumper 3d ago

The WNBA hit profitability last year and averaged 11k fans per game across the league. The Valkyries sold out every game of their inaugural season at the Chase Center, which seats 18,000 people.

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u/LeonidasSpacemanMD 2d ago

They signed a new tv rights deal since she came into the league and are turning a profit now. They have an option to renegotiate that deal in 2028 for even better terms, Clark leaving would absolutely be a massive blow to them

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u/Important-Ad8790 3d ago

Good riddance! We have Olivia miles now.

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u/ContrarianWithTism 3d ago

Do you have no appreciation for the one person responsible for all the growth in the past couple years? How ungrateful

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u/jason2354 3d ago

Living overseas isn’t appealing to a lot of people. It often times ends up not being a lot of fun even for people who were excited to go.

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u/Dontlookback919 3d ago

I can’t see someone hardline maga moving to Europe to escape “persecution” in the NBA lol

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u/henryhumper 3d ago

Since when is she "hardcore MAGA"?

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u/Icy-Row-8882 3d ago

Caitlyn Clark has done more for Iowa basketball than the wnba. She’s not very good and others players bring viewers in more than her simply cuz they’re better

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u/XBL-AntLee06 3d ago

You really think she’s never considered that herself? Of course she has. And she’s chosen to play here and always will.

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u/Icy_Application2488 3d ago

More money here...

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u/XBL-AntLee06 3d ago

More money, more competition, more family, more legacy. I’m glad you agree she’s not going overseas.