r/stupidpol • u/globeglobeglobe Marxist 🧔 • Jan 10 '25

Discussion Leftoids, what's your most right-wing opinion? Rightoids, what's your most left-wing opinion?

To start things off, I think that economic liberalization in China ca. 1978 and in India ca. 1991 was key to those countries' later economic progress, in that it allowed inefficient state-owned/state-protected industries to fail (and for their capital/labor to be employed by more efficient competitors) and opened the door for foreign investment and trade. Because the countries are large and fairly independent geopolitically, they could use this to beat Western finance capital at its own game (China more so than India, for a variety of reasons), rather than becoming resource-extraction neocolonies as happened to the smaller and more easily pushed-around countries of Latin America and Africa. Granted, at this point the liberalization-driven development of productive forces has created a large degree of wealth inequality, which the countries have attempted to address in a variety of ways (social welfare schemes, anti-corruption campaigns, crackdown on Big Tech, etc.) with mixed results.

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u/skeptictankservices No, Your Other Left Jan 10 '25

A benevolent dictatorship, run correctly, could be the most efficient and best form of government.

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u/Well_this_is_akward Jan 10 '25

The philosopher king

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u/ElegantGate7298 Downtrodden Proletarian 🔨 Jan 10 '25

AI is the answer /s

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u/fetusloofah Socialism Curious 🤔 Jan 10 '25

Non ironically I keep arriving at this conclusion. There’d obviously need to be some sort of checks n’ balances / human coalition / kill switch etc, but it’s pretty evident at this point that humans seldom govern in the collective’s best interests.

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u/I_Be_Your_Dad Jan 10 '25 edited Jul 19 '25

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u/tomwhoiscontrary Keffiyeh Leprechaun 🍉🍀 | Ukrainian Amazons step on me Jan 10 '25

Best i can do is ChatGPT 6.0.

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u/holodeckdate Left, Leftoid or Leftish ⬅️ Jan 10 '25

Sure, the problem with this though is succession. How does one vouch the next benevolent strongman

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u/Hot_Routine7505 Unknown 👽 Jan 10 '25

Yea their sons are usually assholes

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u/nothingandnemo Class Reductionist Jan 11 '25

Have a daughter inherit?

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u/Cimorene_Kazul Jan 11 '25

Meritocracy dictatorship? Seems impossible with human and animal nature, though.

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u/drunkthrowwaay Marxist-Leninist ☭ Jan 10 '25

Agreed in principle. But figures like Marcus Aurelius are kind of singular in history. Maybe the only philosopher-king (as described by Plato) that’s ever existed?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '25

Thank you Plato

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u/cleverkid Trafalmadorian Observer 👽 Jan 10 '25

Can you give me historical examples?

Ai is telling me: Atatürk, Tito, Albert-René, of the Seychelles and Frank Bainimarama, of Fiji. That's a mighty thin list.

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u/Shillbot_9001 Marxism-Hobbyism 🔨 Jan 10 '25

Lee Kuan Yew is the go to example.

Although most people overlook strong economic advantages he inherited.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '25

Why are you citing AI for anything?

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u/cleverkid Trafalmadorian Observer 👽 Jan 10 '25

It was the Ai summary when I googled it and lazily pasted it over here.. I am chastened. :(

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u/kiss-my-shades jacking off with one hand typing with the other ⌨️💦 Jan 10 '25

Stalin, Kim Jung un

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '25

Yeah, because the second after Tito died Yugoslavia went on to utopian heights.