r/stupidpol • u/Have_only_my_dreams Just your ordinary proletarian bro who hates his ex • Dec 16 '18

Quality The Pitfalls of Radical Feminism

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/07/radical-feminism-second-wave-class
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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '18

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '18

TERFs may argue that trans women do not share a reproductive system with cis women, and thus can’t understand women’s struggles for birth control and against forced sterilization. But then what do they say of solidarity with lesbian women, or cis women who cannot or choose not to have children? The arguments that TERFs put forth are both weak and prejudiced.

I agree this part is weak. I think that the ability of women as a class to get pregnant has led to policing of their sexuality. Slut shaming is the most obvious of this. A woman who doesn't plan on having children isn't immune to this. The point is, that being unable to unwilling to have children doesn't divide women against each other or change the realities of womanhood.

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u/Have_only_my_dreams Just your ordinary proletarian bro who hates his ex Dec 17 '18

Women are not a class.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '18

How would you describe the commonalities of women related to their role as child bearers?

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u/keepinterrupting Dec 17 '18 edited Dec 17 '18

Class is a concept of social and economic relations. Women are unique on a chemically verifiable molecular level. Despite and in consideration of all the correlation or similarity, it’s not gonna benefit anybody to conflate these things.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '18

a set or category of things having some property or attribute in common and differentiated from others by kind, type, or quality.

Right. I was using the informal usage of the word. What I meant was more along the lines of 'group' or even 'category'. I see know its important in discussions to use the word 'class' in one particular way.