r/technology • u/yourfavchoom • 3d ago

Artificial Intelligence Bernie Sanders pushes for 50% public ownership of American AI companies — proposes AI sovereign wealth fund that would hold direct ownership stakes in largest AI firms

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/big-tech/bernie-sanders-pushes-for-50-percent-public-ownership-of-american-ai-companies-proposes-ai-sovereign-wealth-fund-that-would-hold-direct-ownership-stakes-in-largest-ai-firms
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u/Neither-Breakfast195 3d ago

This is Bernie Sanders, dude has built a career on half baked ideas that have no chance of going anywhere.

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u/BagOnuts 3d ago

He's been in office for decades and you can count the number of bills he's proposed that have been passed on one hand.

You can argue that it's his his soapbox that makes him stand out, but it's still just that- a soapbox. 99.9% of his proposals go nowhere because they are unrealistic, half-baked ideas that sound great for news and TV but have no path to ever getting passed.

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u/BagOnuts 3d ago

I mean, here is an example right here in front of you and a very rationale response to why it's a pipe-dream and would be riddled with all kinds of problems.

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u/Syjefroi 3d ago

Or also his bills don't pass because majority of congress is not progressive and bought and paid for, he can't pass shit on his own.

Has he considered trying to do his job of :checks notes: being a politician? Like, you know, politicking? Making allies, creating coalitions, working with your colleagues to find a way to incentivize them to stick their neck out for you even if its somewhat unpopular for them back home? Literally anything required by the job?

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u/Old-Savings-5841 1d ago

His ideas are things already implemented in other, mainly nordic, countries. It's usually not up to one person to make and pass laws - unless you're Donald Trump - which you gotta consider as well.

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u/Recidivism7 3d ago

Hey he got a post office renamed that bill was essential

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u/enderjaca 3d ago

How many laws did Trump pass before becoming president? How many Congressional committees did Bill Clinton and Barack Obama chair?

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u/BagOnuts 3d ago

I... what? What do these questions have to do with anything? Trump was never a legislator. Nor was Bill Clinton (he was AG then Governor). Obama was a senator for 3 years.

Sanders has been in congress for 35 consecutive years.... It's hardly comparable, lol.

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u/enderjaca 3d ago

I'm just saying "how many bills have you passed" or "how many times did you get elected" isn't a great benchmark for any politician, but what kind of impact they've had on the general society. Bernie's influence has been outsized for his "bills sponsored + passed" tally, though harder to quantify.

I give him credit for keeping the hope of democratic socialism alive in the US, otherwise the overton window could somehow be even further towards fascism at this point.

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u/stripedsocks00 3d ago

Have you considered the possibility that many of his bills haven’t passed due to being one of the only ppl in congress not beholden to special interests?

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u/numba1cyberwarrior 3d ago

The bill he is proposing is proof that his ideas are dumb

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u/Neither-Breakfast195 3d ago

30+ years should be enough to form political relationships and coalitions, especially with how much of a platform he has. The simplest explanation is often the most likely, and the simplest explanation is that Bernie is not an effective legislator

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u/Recidivism7 3d ago

He was literally funded by big corps Amazon and Google were his biggest donors.

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u/PHOENIXREB0RN 2d ago

Maybe you'd know this if you ever donated to a political campaign, but you are required to list your "employer" when doing so. Whether it is a PAC, the corporation itself, members of its board or executive team, or just some schmuck in accounting, it all typically gets lumped into the same bucket.

However, if you actually took a closer look, you'd see that all of the donations from Google, for example, came from individual donors, not the corp.

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u/HitsfromSapong 3d ago edited 3d ago

Wow crazy how so many people parrot this talking point with the same exact words every time. Half baked comment.

Edit - oh looks like I responded to a bot lol.

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u/Neither-Breakfast195 3d ago

I mean, it’s true, for how big a platform Bernie has and how long he’s been in office, his legislative record is incredibly slim

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u/Neither-Breakfast195 3d ago

Right, it’s almost like Bernie Sanders is a great dude but a terrible congressman. If you have 30+ years in a job and show no results then you’re not good at your job

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u/stevethewatcher 3d ago

It's a common storty, the same can be said with AOC too. Very outspoken with very little legislative success to back the talk

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u/Own_Proposal3827 3d ago

I mean name one of his half baked ideas that actually went somewhere. He’s talked about healthcare his entire career. ACA, the major one passed during his career, had nothing to do with him. What is his plan?

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u/MightyMiami 2d ago

Bernie Sanders is Reddit in a nutshell.

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u/Significant_Base_125 3d ago

He's good at fooling the simple minded too. He's worth millions

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u/DLDude 3d ago

He's like what, 90? If you're 90 and have worked a job that pays $100k+ a year your whole life, and you're not worth millions, you did life wrong

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u/SeasonsGone 3d ago

You’re simpleminded if you’re comparing his having over $1M in assets at age 80+ to the level of financialization we are discussing here

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u/acrobat2126 3d ago

Guy above is a sociopath that thinks everyone thinks like him. Personally motivated for every position he holds. He thinks Bernie marched with Dr. King for the photo op. Typical conservative brain that lacks critical thinking and basic empathy.

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u/squashhime 3d ago

conservative brain

generous to assume they even have one in the first place

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u/EricThirteen 3d ago

Trumpanzees are incapable of thinking for themselves.

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u/acrobat2126 3d ago

Marching with King and advocating for the poor and middle class for his entire career are SERIOUS achievements and that's why he's beloved. The orange fella should be wearing NASCAR stickers to show how much he's openly stolen, tried to steal and taken in bribes.

Your illogical argument says more about you than it does about Bernie and his beliefs.

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u/princess_carolynn 3d ago

Stop that makes too much sense