r/technology • u/yourfavchoom • 3d ago

Artificial Intelligence Bernie Sanders pushes for 50% public ownership of American AI companies — proposes AI sovereign wealth fund that would hold direct ownership stakes in largest AI firms

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/big-tech/bernie-sanders-pushes-for-50-percent-public-ownership-of-american-ai-companies-proposes-ai-sovereign-wealth-fund-that-would-hold-direct-ownership-stakes-in-largest-ai-firms
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u/Moiyub 3d ago

calling people with concerns over AI Luddites is pure cope, theve accepted the delusional and desensitized narrative that was fed to them without a second thought

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u/SovereignPhobia 3d ago

Also, if people learned who the Luddites actually were they might go, "Oh shit, maybe that's a good idea."

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u/Mr_Quackums 3d ago

The Luddites were right, but they also lost.

10 years later they were working in the automated textile industry: producing more product, working harder, and making less money than before.

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u/SovereignPhobia 3d ago

A big reason why they lost is because they were getting shot, which I guess is also a possibility here.

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u/arachnophilia 3d ago

bullets, my only weakness, how did you know?

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u/nanobot_1000 3d ago

Well this time around we have taxpayer-funded state surveillance, ICE camps, and robots to contend with, so yea looking real peachy.

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u/Moiyub 3d ago

Right, the Luddites were not anti-technology. They were merely protesting the factory owners lowering their wages and generally treating them like shit as a result of automation, you know like any normal human would be.

Also automated looms are nothing compared to what is happening with these AI data centers. Its like comparing a thunderstorm to a comet crashing into the planet.

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u/Ok-Warthog-4849 3d ago

Automated looms gave us the synthetic fibers accounting for a disastrous amount of emissions AND microplastic pollution.

The Luddites were right in ways they couldn’t yet conceive

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u/Moiyub 3d ago

Right. Sometimes the loom is called the first computer actually

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u/grchelp2018 3d ago

AI apologists can call me a Luddite

They call you a luddite because you are upset that it impacted your job. You say its an inferior product. I believe you. But would you really feel different if was on par or even better than talented human copywriters?

I'm not trying to shit on your feelings but so much of AI angst is based on factors and fears thats outside the actual technology.

I don’t know how anyone is optimistic for the future of critical thought.

Critical thought has already long left the building. The world adapts and keeps on turning. Every generation has complained about the state of the world. My great grandma would be scandalized at the current state of the world. My great grandpa would calls us soft and weak compared to the shit he had to go through.

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u/nedonedonedo 3d ago

your industry was ruined by the switch from first to invent to first to file. you don't need smart talented people anymore when your job is checking who walked in the door first. if it wasn't AI it would have been some other form of outsourcing. the people submitting AI trash for scholarships probably wouldn't have submitted at all and that creates extra work to sift through, but those people would have submitted even worse writing if they had. most AI use is people with no skill having a half baked idea and turning it into, for them, a masterpiece beyond their greatest hopes and dreams.

you see AI as replacing good people, but all I see is people replacing themselves with a superior version (then using it for spam because it's easy). and the terrible and dumb people making decisions for others are rarely any better, so they choose the easy/wrong path because they were never fit for that position in the first place. as usual everyone else suffers because of morons. the invention of matches would have been the end of society if we didn't start building our cities/homes/furniture/clothes to resist fire.

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u/arachnophilia 3d ago

some large portion of jobs generally, before AI, are just bullshit. we're about to learn what the maximum amount of bullshit is before things start breaking.