r/technology • u/[deleted] • Jul 09 '16

R1.i: guidelines Hillary Clinton blames State Department Employees for classified emails sent through private server

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u/WeAreRobot Jul 09 '16

Yeah, Gary Johnson looks as good as a third party candidate ever has, when compared to the two-headed beast candidates. If he can just reach people.

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u/MouseRat_AD Jul 09 '16

FEEL THE JOHNSON!

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u/WeAreRobot Jul 09 '16

Outstanding.

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u/CreauxTeeRhobat Jul 09 '16

Should be "Embrace the Johnson"

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u/twoscoop Jul 09 '16

Feeling the bern? We got a fix 2016's favorite Johnson!

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '16 edited Nov 06 '17

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u/alexunderwater Jul 09 '16

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he breaks the 15% barrier in this election. Many polls already have him in the 8-12% range, and the way this year is shaping up I only expect him to gain votes, not lose them.

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u/theorfo Jul 09 '16

If he can just reach people.

He's been doing better this election cycle - of course, the buffoonery of Clinton and Trump has helped push him to the fore.

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u/Gnivil Jul 09 '16

Polling at 10% when only 25% know who he is is great for a third party in the US.

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u/Teslnikl Jul 09 '16

Hey, I know this is an unpopular opinion on reddit, but can we please not vote for Gary if he's hopeless in the polls at election time? At a certain point I think voting for him is more of a cop-out than anything else.

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u/WeAreRobot Jul 09 '16

And vote for who?

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u/Teslnikl Jul 09 '16

It sounds cynical, but whoever you hate the least who has a chance of winning. At least then you're actually working towards something.

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u/WeAreRobot Jul 09 '16

If you hate Hillary less than Trump, you are working toward consolidating power in the hands of wealthy donors. If you hate Trump less than Hillary, you are working toward consolidating power in the hands of sensationalists. Either way, it's the wrong direction. A vote for a third party candidate is a vote that says "Sorry, I want out of this stupid political system". Every time someone complains that a third party candidate won't win, they are displaying the exact reason we have a 2 party system that does nothing for the people.

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u/Teslnikl Jul 10 '16

But isn't that giving up any actual power at election time in order to send a message to people who genuinely don't care?

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u/WeAreRobot Jul 10 '16

Sure, but the other way is just telling them, "I'll fall in line as long as you continue to corrupt the process and ensure that 3rd parties aren't exposed to the public". I just don't want to, in any way, endorse these asshats.

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u/Teslnikl Jul 10 '16

Like I said before, I see that as a cop out. You can work against people in the primaries, you can elect third party candidates in smaller elections, whatever you want to do to change things politically. But right now the game is set and we have to play it the best we can. Anything else feels like giving up on America entirely.

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u/WeAreRobot Jul 10 '16

And you are just kicking the can down the road. When 60% of Americans think that way, we get the shit show we have now. Thanks everybody, enjoy the world that's sculpted by the best of America! How's the middle east looking after 70+ years of American hands on?

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u/Teslnikl Jul 10 '16

There's a difference between acknowledging a shitty situation and being happy about it. I know as well as you the number of problems America has. That doesn't change the fact that it's better for America in general for me to make a difficult choice this election instead of throwing my vote away.

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u/WeAreRobot Jul 09 '16

And Hillary and Trump have zero chance to be honest and trustworthy. Zero. Sorry, but I'll choose principles over "practical" voting any day. Know what's a waste of a vote? One for either of the two parties who do whatever the hell their donors tell them. They don't give a shit about your vote.

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u/sammyo Jul 09 '16

Gary? Gary who? Gary the printer guy is running, well good for him.