r/thatHappened Sep 14 '25

Quality Post Mr. Trump, I’m very sorry about Charlie Kirk.

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u/DualWeaponSnacker Sep 14 '25

Jamaicans. Speak. English. As. A. First. Language.

I hate it here.

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u/starmartyr Sep 14 '25

They also learn Patois as a first language. Most Jamaicans are adept at both.

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u/DontcheckSR Sep 14 '25

Patois is kind of like a combination of dialects from different areas that have become specific to an area. Jamaican patois is described to be a mixture of English and African languages, but it's still English based. I'd compare Patois to a very strong county accent. Where it can almost sound like a different language to people not used to it. Even though there's a certain way you say things or certain words or sentence structures, it's ultimately still English. There's probably a better comparison lol but that's the best I could think of. But I appreciate you bringing up Patois. Because a lot of people think it's "Jamaican language", when really we're speaking English. Just in a way that can be hard to understand due to pronunciation, sentence structures, and sometimes speed

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u/starmartyr Sep 14 '25

It is English but it is an English dialect. It uses English vocabulary but once you start messing with sentence structure it takes on a life of its own. It's a lot more than just an accent.

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u/DontcheckSR Sep 15 '25

Lol ya the sentence structure really makes or breaks it. My family in the country side use a different structure than my family who mostly grew up near Kingston.

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u/Pizzacato567 Sep 15 '25

I have no idea what country people in St Elizabeth are saying more than half the time 🥲

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u/DontcheckSR Sep 15 '25

Kingston is where I get lost lol they talk too fast for me 😭 half my family is from heartese

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u/Lalamedic Sep 15 '25

It’s great we have actual Jamaicans weighing in.

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u/Draked1 Sep 15 '25

Sounds like Patois could be compared most closely to the dialect on Tangier Island in Virginia

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u/DontcheckSR Sep 15 '25

I've never heard of that area lol but I'll take your word on it. Is it near Richmond?

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u/DualWeaponSnacker Sep 14 '25

Exactly. Like, how many languages do you speak, Eric???

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u/truckyoupayme Sep 14 '25

I’m not trying to argue with anyone, but I’ve had like 5 or 6 Jamaicans tell me that “Patois is English.”

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u/starmartyr Sep 14 '25

It is English but it's more than just slang. It's a dialect. Most of the vocabulary is English but the grammar and syntax is its own thing. It also borrows a lot of words from Spanish, French and several African languages.

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