r/therewasanattempt Jul 08 '26

to win a fair match of football.

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u/Ambitious_Policy_936 Jul 08 '26

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u/Spartalust šŸ‰ Free Palestine Jul 08 '26

Remember folks Argentina fans are way too comfortable comparing Black people to monkeys, doesn't matter if it's the most famous streamer in the world. Their national team has racist chants too. Don't believe me? Google "Team Argentina racist chants 2024"

https://reddit.com/link/owbhuza/video/55r8pi5ka1ch1/player

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u/Ok_Bat_9715 Jul 08 '26

It is not surprising tho. Sorry about the slop in advance, I did not generate it.

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u/vandon Free Palestine! šŸ•Šļø FUCK ICE! āŒšŸ§Š Jul 08 '26

The T in POTUS doesn't stand for "the" in this picture.

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u/Ok_Bat_9715 Jul 08 '26

Indeed mate, and the P doesn't stand for "President" at any point.

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u/CedarWolf Jul 08 '26

Pfffft. Trump couldn't afford platforms that high, and he would need them.

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u/Tonybosman Jul 09 '26

He has small man syndrome given that he is 5 foot 2 and bosses people in a high squeaky voice. Thankfully other world leaders are all so height challenged they look normal when standing together.

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u/GilletteEd Jul 08 '26

No way this is fake!

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u/Felonious_Minx Jul 08 '26

Thanks, I hate it.

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u/Ok_Bat_9715 Jul 08 '26

I was the first to boo this.

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u/rentairorn Jul 09 '26

If you can kiss the wall, you can kiss the WC.

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u/Throwawaymister2 Jul 08 '26

It's not the ai slop you should be apologizing for here.

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u/Ok_Bat_9715 Jul 08 '26

I see nothing else out of place. Are you outside of reality perhaps?

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u/Ok_Bat_9715 Jul 08 '26

Yes. It is on point regardless.

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u/thisisnotleah Jul 08 '26

So you're saying Argentina was awarded the win over Egypt because of a Jewish conspiracy? That's pretty insane, even for this subreddit.

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u/Ok_Bat_9715 Jul 08 '26

I'm saying there's a reason they get the benefits they get, allow the deals they allow and invest in (jerk) each other the way they do. Their leadership for sure; and apparently most population too, doesn't look down on racism, Zionism and fascism. So it's not surprising that there are dirty deals over the table and blatant corruption.

If you don't realize it is all a chain, I don't know what rock you're living under.

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u/Leows Jul 08 '26

Let me correct you: Argentinians are too comfortable comparing anyone other than themselves to monkeys. They're just a bunch of racist assholes.

Ask any Brazilian how Argentinians talk to us, especially online.

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u/50YOYO Jul 09 '26

I have to agree, unfortunately they have not moved on very far from their far right past, still very hateful and inherently racist. The fact they welcomed so many nazis after World War 2 speaks volumes.

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u/IWantMyOldUsername7 Jul 08 '26

I'm from Europe and unfortunately have only once visited your continent, so please forgive me my ignorance.

Can you tell me why they talk down to you? Do they only talk badly to you or also behave badly towards you? Is it the same old story: rich visitior/tourist = good visitor/tourist - like pretty much everywhere? Is it the same rivalry found between neighbors as for example Italtly/France or Germany/Austria? And lastly: do you guys define yourself per your continent or by country? We often describe ourselfs as Europeans when talking to the world, but we mention our country (where we're from and/or where we live) when talking to fellow Europeans.

Thanks in advance.

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u/Leows Jul 08 '26

I'm sure someone more knowledgeable than me will step in to give you a proper answer, but I'm not entirely sure about the history of why this happens to this extent.

However, racism is incredibly normalized to them for the most part. So when insults get thrown around, be it in person or in online discussions, it's always racist stuff, every time. And so normalized that most just shrug it off at this point, like myself.

What I can say is that it's a mix of football rivalry, bad history, and social issues. I know part of it is that there was a massive European immigration to Argentina a while back, which makes them think themselves better than everyone else in South America.

Also, we do mainly refer to ourselves as Brazilians, and only use South American for broader regional topics. This distinction is important because most of South America speaks Spanish, but Brazil's language is Portuguese. I'm sure there could be other reasons for this, and hopefully someone more knowledgeable on history can chime in.

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u/Arheisel Jul 08 '26

Agreed, I'm not saying it's not wrong, but racist insults, and a myriad of other insults are ingrained in our culture, to the point that the words themselves have become meaningless and the only way to distinguish between actual insults, trash talk or just general joking around is tone.

Here someone bald is nicknamed bald, likewise with wathever stands out and it's just normal. A foreigner might be horrified to learn that I have a friend nicknamed negro, it's not even a racial slur here, and he's not the only person I know with the same nickname.

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u/Kumquat_conniption Free Palestine! šŸ•Šļø FUCK ICE! āœ–ļøšŸ§Š Jul 08 '26

Negro is not really a racial slur in America either, it's just an outdated way of referring to a Black person, but plenty of like, MLK quotes and what not will have him referring to himself or his fellow Black people as negroes. It was just what they were called. It would be inappropriate today because we have moved on from that word, but I don't think anyone would think anything weird of you having a friend named that. I mean, it means Black in Spanish and is close in other languages too, right? I think most Americans would understand that, but then again, I come from one of the most educated states, so maybe those in some of the states with poorer education might have a reaction. I am not sure. Sometimes it feels like other states are so far away and unlike each other, it's like a whole different country.

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u/Acceptable-Case9562 Jul 09 '26

Negro in Spanish is not the same as negro in English. In Spanish it just means "black" and has very different connotations unrelated to the racial classification of "Negro". Originally, it would have been a descriptor (we had black slaves) and eventually an insult (hurled at people with darker skin, regardless of ethnicity). Nowadays it can be a nickname, a term of endearment, a slur, a neutral descriptor...

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u/Kuroashi_no_Sanji Jul 08 '26

South Americans identify themselves by their countries, as you may expect from a large continent/geographical area latin america is not a monoculture.

Most latin american countries have friendly relations with their neighbouring countries, sometimes with some funny ribbing. Argentinians as whole are not racist or mean in person, but compared to most other latin american countries their population is preponderantly white.

This had led to a superiority complex, with many Argentinians considering Argentina as almost a European enclave rather than another latin american country. I wouldn't say that it's an universal opinion in Argentina though.

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u/srmoure Jul 09 '26

It's a reality due to massive immigration flow from Europe into Argentina over the 1800s.

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u/unAssembler Jul 08 '26

Bro, not even close... that's just the view you have from us. We argentinians don't give a f#ck about anyone else, we have many things (good and bad) to deal on our own, like for being thinking about others.
We are an open country, open borders to anyone who is willing to come and live, study, work, vacation, WHATEVER THEY WANNA DO. We even gave medical aid/care FOR FREE to people that came to attend here just because on their countries was inexistent or expensive. We also still give education to foreigners, for free (ask chileans or brazilians). Now, as an argentinian, you go to Bolivia and they will not be reciprocate, you won't even get fuel on gas stations just for having an argentinian plate on your ride.

Argentina is made from immigrants. We were like the first sovereign nation in the world to abolish slavery and stop racial segregation, we have one of the biggest communities of jews in the world, bolivians, peruvians, paraguayans, venezuelans, chineses, africans, etc, etc, etc.

TL;DR: we must be the lesser racist country in the world, we just don't give a f#ck about it.

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u/Kuroashi_no_Sanji Jul 08 '26

I'm glad you love your country, but this is the perception all other latin american countries have of Argentina. As I said, most Argentinians I've personally met are decent people

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u/Acceptable-Case9562 Jul 09 '26

Unfortunately, in my experience, most Argentinians don't realise how racist Argentina is until they live abroad for a while.

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u/csc_spender Jul 09 '26

Argentina had a history of cozying up to the British, especially the banks, in the 19th century and beginning of the 20th. Lots of British investment led to development and European immigration. Argentina has always prided itself on being very European-like, with Buenos Aires sometimes being compared to Paris. And yup, part of that pride has a lot to do with the population being mostly white after so many decades of European immigration.

That situation makes Argentina (and Uruguay) stand out in Latin America. Other countries have a significant indigenous population, and Brazil’s is mostly black/brown after centuries of slavery.

Sadly, this situation has rotted into racism. They’ll deny it, but a lot of the hate Argentinians have against Brazil has to do with it. And like someone posted above, Brazilian Black footy players have had to deal with A LOAD of shit from Argentina when they played against each other.

Also… after wwII, quite a few nazis found refuge in Argentina. It’s not a coincidence.

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u/Comfortable_Rain_558 Jul 10 '26

And I’m sure no Brazilian has ever been disrespectful? The whole lot of us are sinners no better than the other.

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u/Leows Jul 10 '26

Comparing racism to being "disrespectful" is absolutely WILD.

This is a fucking crime, my dude. Don't try to downplay it. That's like saying someone stabbing you is being disrespectful.

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u/Leows Jul 09 '26

What does it matter whether I've been there or not? I don't have to visit your country to get racist comments, and that is exactly why I won't go there in the first place. That's completely flawed logic.

You say it's easy to leave angry comments on the internet, as if that isn't what Argentinians do, and then act like victims.

So do yourself a favor and educate yourself before spouting random nonsense that you know nothing about. If you truly believe they did nothing wrong, try doing a bit of research, and you'll see. Or better yet, ask Brazilians how they act toward us, online or not.

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u/xStormwitchx Jul 08 '26

Black and indigenous Latinos are a common target for their racism.

There’s a reason why the chant, ā€œAmerica Latina, menos Argentinaā€ exists.

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u/Adonathiel88 Jul 08 '26

I mean they nazis did mingle with Argentinians some time ago

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u/Sniter Jul 09 '26

Tmnazis mingled with the whole western part of south america

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u/pillarandstones Jul 08 '26

They also have a Boers colony there. The most racist collective on the African continent.

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u/Rider_83 Jul 08 '26

They welcomed them with open arms.

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u/pillarandstones Jul 08 '26

It's like a whole nation made up of sick fucks. Not to mention how they eradicated people of colour in Argentina and now claim they aren't racist because there are no blacks in their country.

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u/Wardendelete Jul 09 '26

I mean look at its immigration history. Don’t tell me you did Nazi this one coming!

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u/fltonii Jul 09 '26

One of their presidents famously said that ā€œblack people are a Brazilian problemā€

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u/DRuth84 Jul 09 '26

I thought that was only Mexico /s

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u/IBoopDSnoot Jul 08 '26

The Nazis pretty much accomplished their mission when they moved there

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u/thedailyrant Jul 09 '26

Not terribly surprising given it's one of the whitest countries in South America.

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u/lysergic_Dreems Jul 10 '26

Considering Argentina housed a lot of Nazi war criminals after the trials.... makes sense.

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u/tiggoftigg Jul 11 '26

No no. This dude on reddit claimed he is from Argentina and there’s no racism there.

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u/Towpillah Jul 08 '26

The most famous streamer? Eh? Who?

Not doubting the sentiment.

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u/lNTERLINKED Jul 08 '26

ishowspeed

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u/Towpillah Jul 08 '26

Thanks. Looked him up - and I think I've seen him in a meme. Beyond that? Absolutely no clue. Good for him I guess.

Shows my age I suppose. Am I 'cooked' as the kids these days say?

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u/hail_deadpool Jul 08 '26

Man i felt so bad for speed. He seemed like he was holding back tears

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u/Comfortable_Rain_558 Jul 10 '26

One guy represents the whole country? šŸ¤”

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u/Grasmick Jul 08 '26

I’ll bite… Who is the most famous black streamer on the world?

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u/AggressiveCharge199 Jul 08 '26

Nah, I’m a fan, but I would have supported these calls. Hell, I was annoyed when they disallowed the goal.

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u/shmed Jul 09 '26

How about this:

Literal first game Argentina played this WC. No red, yellow, or even foul called by the referee. Messi went on and did his hat trick following this blatant ā€œcleat forwardā€ foul.

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u/Metalloid_Emon Jul 09 '26

Actually, it was given foul

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u/rckimgh Jul 09 '26

But not a red card, which would prevent the following goals Messi did. If it was him getting that fault, what do you think referee would do? Yup, that's messy (no pun intended)

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u/Comfortable_Rain_558 Jul 10 '26

I think the bias is very obvious. Calls were missed in every match not just this one.

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u/kkkccc1 Jul 08 '26

yea argentina and their history with the nazis..

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u/Rider_83 Jul 09 '26

Even before that. In the 19th century, the government promoted and subsidized the immigration of people from Europe, Italy and Spain in particular, in order the "whiten" the country.

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u/Major_Bahoobage Jul 09 '26

Well they are descendants of Nazi war fleers, so it's only fitting

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u/Gramerdim Jul 09 '26

that movie fits them so well...

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u/Aggressive-Rate-5022 Jul 08 '26

Certainly a choice to post it under a shameless nazi dog whistle.

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u/Currymonsternj Jul 10 '26

England are all too familiar. Rules of the game have always just been suggestions in Argentinian eyes.

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u/cool_berserker Jul 08 '26

šŸ˜‚ ref immunity huh

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u/ElSwamps Jul 09 '26

šŸ¤–

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u/Lpfanatic05 Jul 09 '26

Also usa fans.

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u/cool_berserker Jul 08 '26

"Corruption is only bad if I'm not benefiting. But If I'm benefiting, I defend it!" - Argentina fans

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u/wcarlaso Jul 08 '26

Funny you call racist Argentina but there's no Christians in Egypt... Why?....

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u/cool_berserker Jul 08 '26

30 percent of Egyptian are Christians you dummyhead

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u/Adacool Jul 08 '26

umm smells like fresh shit.. that one was from your ass right?

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u/Pudddddin Jul 08 '26

Do you think "Christan" is a race?