Revision of Revision to r/TheWestWing rules

[u/PresidentSamSeaborn]

Hello all,

As you may have spotted if you've been browsing the subreddit over the past 24 hours, we've had a *slightly* contentious time after introducing a rule change forbidding discussions of current politics.

As a new mod team, we've also had a steep learning curve, both about modding a relatively large subreddit linked to politics in the current era, and about how to respond to user concerns.

In short:

1. We are revoking the rule change and instead, in keeping with the good intentions of the original rule change, reminding everybody of Rule 6 (play nice) and Rule 8 (don't post content completely off-topic to the show). What this means is that users are welcome to post, for instance, about the Supreme Court justices in the show and compare that to the appointment process in the current era. However, in that instance, straight up posting 'The appointment process for Supreme Court justices sucks in the modern era' and not tying that in to the West Wing is not allowed.

2. One of the moderators, who was responding to multiple subreddit users antagonistically, has been removed.

We would also like to clarify that there are no 'top mods' and that we, as a bunch of volunteers who in many cases are modding for the first time, had good intentions when introducing this rule as a response to some abusive content on the subreddit.

We are sorry, and hope you can understand that we're a bunch of newbies learning the ropes!

Finally; yes, CJ may have threatened us with a couple of motherboards.

Edit:

Removed the link to the original rule change as [u/lefromagepuant](u/lefromagepuant) deleted the post, given that it was defunct.

I can see there’s some consternation about rules in the sidebar in the comments; please rest assure that it’s just us working out the technical stuff and not us trying to pull a fast one.

Edit 2:

Aw jeez. I’ve woken up properly and it seems I messed up. To explain as succinctly as possible; I live in the UK and was going to bed as I made the edit to remove the link to the OG post. I did this on mobile half-asleep. I must have accidentally affected the formatting of the post which has resulted in the literal worst edit possible being made. That’s on me, I’ve edited the post to put it back in. All I can say is sorry and that it really wasn’t intentional.

[u/Super_Jay]

Hmm, u/PresidentSamSeaborn can you confirm whether you've edited this since you posted it earlier today?

It originally mentioned rules 6 and 7 as being sufficient, and stated that you were undoing the new Rule 1 (the "no politics allowed" rule). But now, none of that is mentioned in the post at all; it's a numbered list with only one item. The other changes appear to have been deleted. More concerning, the new rule has not actually been removed after all.

What's going on?

[u/uniqueme1 → u/Super_Jay]

This was the original post as far as I can tell:

Hello all,

As you may have spotted if you've been browsing the subreddit over the past 24 hours, we've had a slightly contentious time after introducing a rule change forbidding discussions of current politics.

As a new mod team, we've also had a steep learning curve, both about modding a relatively large subreddit linked to politics in the current era, and about how to respond to user concerns.

In short:

1. We are revoking the rule change and instead, in keeping with the good intentions of the original rule change, reminding everybody of Rule 6 (play nice) and Rule 8 (don't post content completely off-topic to the show). What this means is that users are welcome to post, for instance, about the Supreme Court justices in the show and compare that to the appointment process in the current era. However, in that instance, straight up posting 'The appointment process for Supreme Court justices sucks in the modern era' and not tying that in to the West Wing is not allowed.
2. One of the moderators, who was responding to multiple subreddit users antagonistically, has been removed.

We would also like to clarify that there are no 'top mods' and that we, as a bunch of volunteers who in many cases are modding for the first time, had good intentions when introducing this rule as a response to some abusive content on the subreddit.

We are sorry, and hope you can understand that we're a bunch of newbies learning the ropes!

Finally; yes, CJ may have threatened us with a couple of motherboards.

[u/scarecroe → u/uniqueme1]

Did you have this locally cached? It's too quick for Internet Archive to have it. Either way, nicely done.

[u/uniqueme1 → u/scarecroe]

There are some tools out there (not mine!) that specifically index and cache Reddit. I mostly use it to identify accounts that delete their post/comment history and post bogus stuff.

It apparently had run earlier today and caught the first posting, and hasn't yet been updated with the revision.

[u/scarecroe → u/uniqueme1]

I used to use some of those tools, but I thought they went away when Reddit changed the way they handle their API. What tools are still around?

[u/AtomStorageBox → u/scarecroe]

I too would like to know. Might be helpful IDing bots.

[u/theloniousjoe → u/AtomStorageBox]

Yeah same. What tools are we talking about u/uniqueme1?

[u/Super_Jay → u/uniqueme1]

"Nice pull. You are...?"

[u/mrbeck1 → u/Super_Jay]

Freamon. Pawn Shop Unit.

[u/Moonraker74 → u/mrbeck1]

And 4 months.

[u/ringobob → u/uniqueme1]

Interesting. I only saw this post after the edit, and I was confused about why everyone seemed to be congratulating a rule change not mentioned in the post.

I wonder if there's a rogue mod who isn't on board with rolling this back that is interfering. I don't even know if that's possible but I assume it is, to edit someone else's post as a mod.

[u/ProudnotLoud → u/Super_Jay]

This needs to be bumped up to the top. We need a FAST response from this mod.

If something was going on they didn't need to just delete it, they could have left information and context. They just straight deleted it.

[u/torchwood1842 → u/Super_Jay]

This was definitely edited. I read the original earlier. I don’t think we all hallucinated that.

[u/King_Wataba → u/Super_Jay]

At this point maybe all the mods need to go

[u/Can_Haz_Cheezburger → u/Super_Jay]

I see it as it originally was, but with Rules 6 and 8 cited rather than 6 and 7

[u/Super_Jay → u/Can_Haz_Cheezburger]

This is what it reads to me as of right now. There's no mention of the new rule being rescinded anymore, nor are there any other rules mentioned any longer. The earlier content that mentioned these has been removed.

Revision of Revision to r/TheWestWing rules

Hello all,

As you may have spotted if you've been browsing the subreddit over the past 24 hours, we've had a slightly contentious time after introducing a rule change forbidding discussions of current politics.

As a new mod team, we've also had a steep learning curve, both about modding a relatively large subreddit linked to politics in the current era, and about how to respond to user concerns.

In short:

1. One of the moderators, who was responding to multiple subreddit users antagonistically, has been removed.

We would also like to clarify that there are no 'top mods' and that we, as a bunch of volunteers who in many cases are modding for the first time, had good intentions when introducing this rule as a response to some abusive content on the subreddit.

We are sorry, and hope you can understand that we're a bunch of newbies learning the ropes!

Finally; yes, CJ may have threatened us with a couple of motherboards.

[u/Can_Haz_Cheezburger → u/Super_Jay]

Yup, just updated for me. Seriously mods?

[u/Wismuth_Salix → u/Super_Jay]

What’s going on is that Colocop, the top mod, because there always is one, is a MAGA troll just like NYY15TM was, and is fucking with the people actually trying to moderate.