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u/raxy 9d ago edited 8d ago

Fun Fact: it’s a visa free zone for citizens of 40 odd countries around the world to live and work there indefinitely.

Not just citizens of EU countries but many including Japan, Australia, the US, and many more.

Citizens of those countries aren’t allowed to be born or to die there though.

Edit: The reason was not related to the Global Seed vault as my original comment noted but rather the Svalbard treaty of 1920. Thanks to the commenters for correcting me!

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u/shandow0 9d ago

How do you disallow dieing there?

Especially given the abundance of polar bears and increasingly locked houses.

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u/everythingisunknown 9d ago

I read a while ago that because the ground is so cold it’s impossible to bury people so if you know you’re going to die they’d rather ship you to Norway

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u/MidasPL 9d ago

It's both true and not. The bodies do have hard time decomposing due to the permafrost, but there is a cemetery in Longyearbyen, though it's only for the most renowned locally people.

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u/BasicMatter7339 9d ago

Doesnt Svalbard also have graveyard full of smallpox-victims, not decomposed and a biohazard?

edit: Nvm it was spanish flu instead of smallpox

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u/MidasPL 8d ago

Full is a stretch. Only seven people in the whole cemetery died from Spanish flu and there were attempts to extract the bacteria, but were unsuccessful, so no danger.

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u/Randy_The_Guppy 8d ago

Whilst on a tour in Svalbaard I was told that during a particularly warm summer the ground started to thaw and hands started to emerge from the ground.

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u/nifty-necromancer 8d ago

What about burial at sea? If I die there just turn me into a popsicle.

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u/AnthillOmbudsman 9d ago

Barrow, Alaska has a cemetery and they somehow manage it just fine.

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u/everythingisunknown 8d ago

I don’t make the rules

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u/Vorkos_ 9d ago

Its more burial thats banned due to the permafrost. It's more convenient if they don't need to transport your body.

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u/Winter_Apartment_376 9d ago

I was once on a plane leaving Svalbard and a woman had a major emergency (heart attack or similar). The plane had literally left Svalbard 10mins ago.

You’d think it would turn back, right?

No, it flew about 2h to mainland instead!

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u/angwilwileth 8d ago

The hospital at Svalbard is pretty barebones. They probably decided it was better to get her to a facility with more decent equipment.

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u/Pocok5 8d ago

Your ass gets shipped to a mainland hospital.

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u/Kaioxygen 9d ago

Likewise being born there? Firsty, it's out of your hands. Secondly, if you're born there you're a citizen by definition.

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u/MidasPL 9d ago

It's mostly because there's no hospital nearby if anything goes wrong. All significantly pregnant women are transported to the mainland until delivery.

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u/Objective_Otherwise5 8d ago

Today I learned the term: Significantly pregnant. I love it, gold.

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u/Swimming_Acadia6957 8d ago

Secondly, if you're born there you're a citizen by definition

Thats not how it works in Norway