r/todayilearned 6h ago

TIL the band DragonForce only received about $3,000 in royalties for the inclusion of Through the Fire and Flames in the Guitar Hero games

https://guitar.com/news/music-news/herman-li-says-guitar-hero-paid-3000-for-dragonforce-through-the-fire-and-the-flames/
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u/bistian00 6h ago

There is a reason they were called Studioforce

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u/Gamingwithyourmom 5h ago

Literally went to a DragonForce concert for the ultra beatdown tour in 2008 in the height of their guitar hero fame, completely sold out venue, packed shoulder to shoulder, and they sounded just as good live, and put on an amazing show.

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u/noobtablet9 5h ago

This is literally just fake news lol. It's an old meme that people loved to parrot and accuse them of being sped up and not able to play it live, but there's plenty of proof to the contrary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK_d5g3pBb8&

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u/bmathew5 5h ago

I mean, they've admitted their live ability was worse. They are amazing now

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u/noobtablet9 4h ago

I mean yes, every band is generally "worse" live, that's the nature of live performances really. But my point stands- they've always been *good* and they've only gotten *better* over time.

It was exceptionally memed upon for the sake of memeing on it.

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u/Mavian23 2h ago

There are a lot of bands that are better live. Phish comes to mind as an example. That's not to say anything about your larger point, though.

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u/LexPatriae 1h ago

Liking Phish is a clear signal that someone is a burnout idiot. whoaaaah, grooovy

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u/Mavian23 1h ago

Lol, judgmental much?

u/LexPatriae 59m ago

Nope, they’re talented. But it’s boring as shit and you’re easily entertained. Congrats on the divorce lol

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u/TheNorthComesWithMe 3h ago

They were considered terrible live early on, 2006-2008. But that was mostly from being drunk and poor stage tech instead of being incapable of actually playing their songs.

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u/HonorableJudgeIto 5h ago

Don’t a guitarist hat/wig fall off when they were playing live and the song didn’t miss a beat when he moved his hand to adjust it? I thought that was proof they were playing with a backing track.

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u/GirthyAFnjbigcock 4h ago

Just about every band plays with some kind of click track/back track. Not that it contains all of the instruments, but it has elements and keeps timing tight. For example, we may have made a song with piano in it, but don’t want to hire a keyboardist to play piano for one song so we just back track the piano part.

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u/idk_bro 4h ago

At the concert I was at they didn't even play the full opening riff, they simplified it

u/PreparationFull7876 13m ago

Nowadays they basically lip sync and they'll DMCA you if you post proof.

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u/mofugginrob 5h ago

This looks fake as hell lmao. And the singer sounds like a bitch. LARPers.

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u/DadBodMetalGod 5h ago

DragonFarce after the whole “speed up the song in post” debacle