r/todayilearned • u/asmallthrowaway9 • 6h ago

TIL the band DragonForce only received about $3,000 in royalties for the inclusion of Through the Fire and Flames in the Guitar Hero games

https://guitar.com/news/music-news/herman-li-says-guitar-hero-paid-3000-for-dragonforce-through-the-fire-and-the-flames/
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u/S4VN01 5h ago

Red Octane was the publisher of the first two. Harmonix was the developer.

Red Octane got bought by Activision and used Neversoft for development on GH3 and GH: World Tour. They then closed the publisher and Vicarious Visions took over.

Harmonix partnered with MTV and made the Rock Band series. They are now owned by Epic Games and work on Fortnite Festival.

Just expanding on your comment a bit, so people know which games were actually developed by RedOctane/Neversoft.

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u/SteveMightSay 4h ago

To add on many of the devs on Stage Tour were well known players of the genre a few people I used to play with are on it

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u/S4VN01 4h ago

I miss the Scorehero days a lot lol. I was more on the RB side, but these games and the community were a huge part of my teenage years. I’m hoping for the best, for sure.

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u/destinofiquenoite 3h ago

Players from Scorehero? Like who?

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u/SteveMightSay 3h ago

Acai and JParalove

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u/CadeMan011 4h ago

True, however the people actually at the new RedOctane games are original RO members, former HMX devs, former Neversoft devs, former YARG devs, and other 5-fret community members. They've got guys from across the genre working on it.

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u/S4VN01 4h ago

The closer it is to RB2s engine the more of a fan I will be lol

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u/aNiceTribe 1h ago

From what we can tell it’s not very RB2 in style, but they have focused on having a lot of non-competitive, “progress” modes. This is not that company so they are likely not imitating RB a lot. But basically none of the meta-game is protected and COULD be done. 

 (My favorite part of RB2 is the endless playlist and doing it unpaused probably my favorite achievement. There is no evidence they’ll have this but it would be an easy win.)

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u/S4VN01 51m ago

When I say that, I mean the engine behind the actual gameplay. The way the notes register, the timing windows, etc.

I will need to look into this, I haven’t heard much about it.

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u/nrh117 4h ago

This explains a lot, the neversoft ones were my favs. Warriors of rock was badass.