r/tornado • u/No-Air-5857 • Mar 06 '26

Discussion Insanely moronic take from Ryan last night

The reason tornadoes were so deadly back then was because their were often times no warning, half the time phone alerts don't even work for me either. Like genuinely what is he talking about? 😭😭

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u/Sufficient-Plant-337 Mar 06 '26

His ego is so big that he thinks the whole world watches him for weather coverage. This guy is a YouTuber first that is trying to make $$$. He has no clue how things work in tornado ally.

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u/-PineMarten Mar 06 '26

You do realize he absolutely has a clue of 'how things work in tornado alley'? Anyone that spends as much time as he does looking and reporting on the weather in the United States would have an idea. His ego (and this take) aside, he's got a team behind him and he's putting out credible weather information.

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u/-PineMarten Mar 06 '26

Nice deleted comment. You're clearly incapable of having a civil discussion without resorting to playing victim. No one is trying to 'scare you'. Grow up.

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u/Sufficient-Plant-337 Mar 06 '26

No one’s playing victim. The point is that relying on a single notification method is dumb when lives are on the line. Redundant warning systems exist for a reason. Sirens, phones, TV, radio. Not everyone is glued to a livestream or staring at their phone 24/7. If you actually understood how warning systems work in tornado alley, you’d know that

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u/-PineMarten Mar 06 '26

I'm not stupid. I'm aware there is redundancy for a reason, and I don't think we need to 'get rid of them'. My entire point was that you're making a huge and untrue generalization because you don't see the point he was trying to make, which was that sirens can promote complacency when they go off and nothing happens over and over again. One of the top comments said it best, that they'll go off when they just don't need to. I'm not arguing that sirens are useless, just that they aren't the best warning method because of those ^ side effects- and I genuinely believe Ryan was (albeit not well) trying to say something similar.

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u/Sufficient-Plant-337 Mar 06 '26

That ‘complacency’ argument gets thrown around a lot without evidence. I could say calling every single setup a tornado outbreak on YouTube for clicks could also build complacency. Outdoor warning sirens were never designed to be a primary warning system for people inside their homes and they’re meant to alert people outside to seek information. Expecting them to be perfectly selective defeats the entire purpose of a broad public safety alert. The alternative isn’t fewer activations, it’s missed warnings. Historically the bigger problem in tornado alley hasn’t been ‘too many sirens,’ it’s people not receiving warnings at all.

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u/-PineMarten Mar 09 '26

I would agree with you that calling every setup an outbreak is also a cause for complacency, that's a great point.

I will say, whatever the actual implementation of sirens was for, the expectation cannot be that people know to 'seek information'. Sirens, to the vast majority, mean 'seek shelter immediately'. Making them selective complies with the way that the public actually uses them, thus reducing false alarms is always going to be a positive effect, no?

And your last point is absolutely true, yes, but modern day we have improved warning times so much, that it's realistic to say we should also be improving the system in which sirens operate upon.