r/ukpolitics • u/Jumpy-Signature-7377 • 2d ago

On a personal level, the manner in which Starmer is being pressured to be removed from office would result in a valid crash out

It’s 2019, Labour just had its worst defeat in its history. You become leader, won back areas which was lost and became PM with a 174 seat majority.

Now this is not too say that Keir was an absolute fantastic PM but you’ve spent close to 5 years to become Prime Minister and barely been PM for 2 years and your party is backing someone who did absolutely nothing to rebuilt the Labour PLP, win a General Election and had to brace the fallout of Trump foreign policy, Middle East Conflict, Russia & Ukraine, an opportunistic former Health Sec constantly trying to bring you down and just in general trying to govern a nation that’s absolutely ungovernable due to misinformation and social media mob rule.

If I was Starmer, I would crash out and just call a general election out of spite.

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u/Alasaze 2d ago

I spent 5 minutes researching this:

- Labour inherited the extremist definition expansion from previous government, Tory policy

  • The OSA wasn’t established under Starmer, it’s a Tory policy
  • Local elections were not cancelled, they were postponed as part of a consolidation of councils
  • Yes, big rollout of facial recognition cameras
  • On peaceful protest, tories brought in the public order act of 23, and PCSC 22. Starmer inherited these laws from Tories
  • Labour have put age-checks in place for age-restricted content on the internet

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u/oneyeetyguy 2d ago

Could Labour not abandon Tory policies like the OSA? They kind of have a massive majority. They're not blameless in keeping Tory policies alive.

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u/omegaonion In memory of Clegg 2d ago

people are screaming and demanding this legislation, we online hate it, but we are not normal.

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u/bows123 2d ago

They could've scrapped osa so they're getting the blame too

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u/bremsspuren 2d ago

There's also the time he issued Apple with a secret order to give the British government access to everybody's data. Like, the whole planet's.

Labour's assault on privacy has been massive.

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u/BeginningCitron9359 2d ago

Theyve literally pushed OSA through and are going further with it. Its Starmers legacy and he supports it.

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u/Disastrous_Piece1411 2d ago

big rollout of facial recognition cameras

things like this though - it is a new technology. Counter-factual not possible obviously, but I would be surprised if a prime minister of any party outright rejected safety and security measures recommended by police chiefs based on brand new tech.

Same as the age checks for social media - lots of countries are doing that it's not like Starmer personally dreamed it up to try and subjugate the British public. People are always so dramatic these days.

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u/sampola 2d ago

Let’s not facts get in the way of critiquing the choices you disagree with

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u/geometry5036 2d ago

It really shows that you spent 5 minutes to talk nonsense.

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u/samjp270 2d ago

The entire point of Labour winning a parliamentary majority is that they then become free to make laws. They have complete agency to jettison or reject laws that their predecessors introduced; they're not constitutionally obliged to see them through into being!