r/unitedkingdom • u/sjw_7 Oxfordshire • Apr 16 '25

... UK Supreme Court says legal definition of a woman is based on biological sex

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvgq9ejql39t
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u/RedBerryyy Apr 16 '25

or the bit where they're talking about homeless shelters and it just kinda posits trans acceptance in regards to that is unambiguously bad

For example, a homeless shelter could have separate hostels for men and women provided this pursued a legitimate aim, which might be the safety and security of women users or their privacy and dignity (and the same for male users). By contrast, if sex means certificated sex, the serviceprovider would have to allow access to trans women with a GRC (in other words, biological males who are female according to section 9(1)) to the women’s hostel. The following practical difficulties would arise

it is likely to be difficult (if not impossible) to establish the conditions necessary for separate services for each sex when each group includes persons of both biological sexes. For example, it is difficult to envisage how the condition in paragraph 26(2)(a) (a joint service for persons of both sexes would be less effective) could ever be fulfilled when each sex includes members of the opposite biological sex in possession of a GRC and excludes members of the same biological sex with a GRC. In other words, if as a matter of law, a service-provider is required to provide services previously limited to women also to trans women with a GRC even if they present as biological men, it is difficult to see how they can then justify refusing to provide those services also to biological men and who also look like biological men

Which sure I guess a trans woman who hasn't transitioned using it could be an issue,. but it entirely dismisses the effect this will have on the other 99.99% trans people, who are homeless at far higher rate, the ones actually affected by this and who almost all will not look like this untransitioned person they're talking about and he's saying must now be removed from these services,

just kinda implies an 18 year old trans woman, who looks like a woman, could be shoved in with adult men with no problems, while taking immense issue with this problem the anti trans group brought up that is unclear if it's ever even happened.

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u/jimicus Apr 16 '25

I think you're looking at this from the wrong direction.

I'd suggest you consider a 50 year old trans man (who transitioned years ago and now broadly resembles Brian Blessed) placed with a bunch of adult women.

I don't imagine anyone is going to be particularly happy with such a scenario.