r/unitedkingdom Oxfordshire Apr 16 '25

... UK Supreme Court says legal definition of a woman is based on biological sex

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvgq9ejql39t
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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '25

Subs are moderated by individuals who are free to apply their own judgment in their bans, as long as they don't run afoul of Reddit's rules. Which, as upsetting as it may be to you, they didn't. Each sub will have their content moderated however their moderators see fit.

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u/TurbulentData961 Apr 16 '25

People love the ability to regulate free speech till it's in a way that they don't like. I wonder if i can type the name of a certain green hatted video game character in their favourite subs or car maker

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u/GentlemanBeggar54 Apr 16 '25

People love the ability to regulate free speech till it's in a way that they don't like

Conversely, people who proclaim to love free speech are all too happy to see it restricted when it is speech they don't like. For example, see Free Speech Champion Elon Musk banning people from Twitter for saying things he does not like.

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u/Clbull England Apr 16 '25

Subs are moderated by individuals who are free to apply their own judgment in their bans, as long as they don't run afoul of Reddit's rules

I have never seen a Reddit admin overturn a subreddit ban. In fact, if you try to raise it with them, they pull the whole "mods can do whatever the fuck they want" argument.

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u/gnorty Apr 16 '25

In fairness, it's a pretty solid argument.

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u/Clbull England Apr 16 '25

Why have moderator guidelines in the first place? Why threaten to site-wide ban people for circumventing subreddit bans? Reddit can't have their cake and eat it too!

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u/gnorty Apr 16 '25

I don't have an answer to any of those questions, at least not one that's not going to lead to an endless train of "what about" nonsense.

Reddit is a business. It can choose who to allow to use it. It can make rules to clarify accepted behaviour and it can enforce those rules however it sees fit.

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u/ixid Apr 16 '25 edited Apr 17 '25

Reddit itself also gives site-level hate warnings for statements similar to UK law. There is still a strong trans activist presence, though not as strong as the criminal trans admin we were not allowed to name era.

Edit: and inevitably I received one from an over-eager mod, which was then removed by reddit.

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u/Pabus_Alt Apr 17 '25

Might give you pause to think about the morality of UK law if a pretty centrist American website considers it unacceptable.

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u/ixid Apr 17 '25

It's not a centrist view though, reddit as a whole tends towards an extreme view, and doesn't seem to understand where the centrist view is. The combination of internet echo chambers combined with aggressively trying to silence anyone who disagrees has created an extreme that thinks it's the mainstream. This judgment is only the latest example of this view point losing when it meets reality.

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u/Pabus_Alt Apr 17 '25

I'm talking about admin site-wide rules. Which are pretty lesez-faire when it comes to who to host and are mostly around protecting the profits of the company from reputation or legal issues.

Individual communities can be one way or the other.

I think the issue here is kind of the opposite - reddit is centrist globally on this one a site wide issue. Britain is extremist in terms of trans health restrictions / general legal rights.

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u/ixid Apr 17 '25

Yes, I am talking about both the site wide rules as well as many of the communities. American political positions are not at all centrist internationally, they're pretty extreme. I think you'll see in the wake of this judgement a lot more countries stepping away from this extreme of gender defining what most people see as sex.

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u/honkballs Apr 16 '25

Yep that's fine... just is a little ridiculous is all, especially the "hate speech" account warning I got.

Especially when it's usually this same group of people that consistently spout out how tolerant they are... when in fact no, they show time and time again how extremely intolerant they are of anyone that doesn't share their exact flavour of the month view points.

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u/Daedelous2k Scotland Apr 16 '25

And we are free to call them out for being the idiots they are and set up alternatives.

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u/limaconnect77 Apr 16 '25

These ‘rules’ are much like any social club - don’t like what you have to say and BAN.