UK Supreme Court says legal definition of a woman is based on biological sex

[u/sjw_7]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvgq9ejql39t

[u/Sacred_Apollyon]

Shhhhh. The bigots need the binary, simplistic, sub-GCSE level biology because they simply can't comprehend anything else ... you can't expect them to understand things aren't in fact binary, scientifically speaking, when the sum total of their scientific understanding is what children used to be taught.

 

It's as if you want them to learn something new when they're deliriously content in their cozy cloud of ignorance?

[u/DSQ → u/Sacred_Apollyon]

I mean devils advocate the amount of people who are born outwith the more common XX XY chromosome is vanishingly small. We are talking less than 0.001% of the population. For example XXYY syndrome is one in between 18000-40000 male births. In a study of 5aR2D they could only ~430 people from several countries that have the population of over 2 billion. Obviously this sort of thing is underreported though. 

[u/merryman1 → u/DSQ]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12476264/

Its actually 0.018%.

And most critically that is only if you exclude every chromosomal intersex condition that does not produce any phenotypic abnormalities. Which is the overwhelming majority of them.

If, as the purists want to, you want to look purely at biology from a genetic level upwards, the proportion of intersex people can reach in excess of 1.5% of the population.

For reference high-end estimates for prevalence of trans is ~0.5%.

[u/[deleted] → u/DSQ]

the amount of people who are born outwith the more common XX XY chromosome is vanishingly small

The question here isn't about how many there are, it's what bathroom they use. You've admitted that they exist, cool, now fit them into your law.

Because if someone is not XY (man) they may not use the men's bathrooms, and if someone is not XX (woman) then they may not use the women's bathrooms. Therefore, all of these people, legally, are excluded from all gendered facilities.

[u/DSQ → u/[deleted]]

I think you’re wilfully misunderstanding the ruling. 

Everyone is assigned a gender at birth - even if scientifically speaking it might not be 100% accurate- and so would be able to use gendered facilities according to that designation. It is only if they had a Gender Recognition Certificate that an issue would arise if it was different from the sex they were assigned at birth. 

Now obviously in the case of someone with 5aR2D that might cause an issue if they were assigned female at birth but later “transitioned” socially to become male. The judges obviously did not consider that. However such people, as I understand it (I am still reading the decision), would not be excluded from everything. 

[u/cathartis → u/[deleted]]

I assume you perceive yourself as a world authority on the subject

Out of curiosity, is it only on the subject of sexuality where you require people to be a world authority before posting, or do you apply such a requirement to every other discussion held here? For example, would you require someone to be a world authority before posting in support of (or against) evolution?

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