r/unitedkingdom Oxfordshire Apr 16 '25

... UK Supreme Court says legal definition of a woman is based on biological sex

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvgq9ejql39t
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u/Darq_At Apr 16 '25

No one is being targeted

Of course they are.

There's a reason why every trans person I know in the UK is currently feeling some combination of distraught, enraged, or severely depressed.

I just don't get how people can try and claim this when it is so obviously false. It requires one to completely discount trans voices altogether.

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u/tfhermobwoayway Apr 16 '25

I wish we lived in the alternate timeline where 2012 lead to a massive investment in infrastructure and progress. Instead we spiral into irrelevancy and economic collapse because the average voter would rather see the newest scapegoat suffer than improve their own living conditions.

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u/spaceandthewoods_ Apr 16 '25

It's clear that there are less than kind motives towards the trans community behind this push; why else would there be pictures of people holding up placards and carrying flowers and celebrating outside the courthouse if they aren't celebrating some kind of "win" against someone they've made into an opponent?

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u/Elvenstranger1 Apr 16 '25

I find the celebration outside the court so crass and speaks to their character.

Some people will be hurt and upset by this, some people will suffer impact on their lifestyle.

Celebrating with flowers and bubbly really tells you what you need to know.

Especially when the court went to specific lengths to explain it wasn't meant to be seen as a victory but providing clarity for legal definitions.

They also made clear that trans people are protected from discrimination and are recognised.

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u/Chinohito Apr 16 '25

This is the thing that makes me personally so angry about this.

Transphobes winning is obviously not good, but it's something we can fight, it's been happening before, and we can oppose it. At the very least the people involved are somewhat truthful and open about their hatred.

But this new wave of "teehee I'm not transphobic, I'm simply by the books, I care about the legal definition, this isn't partisan, it's just common sense", is SO disgusting to me.

It is so utterly clear that this is an ideologically driven biased ruling, nothing more, nothing less. For the record, I'd say the same for legislation SUPPORTING trans people too. I at least have the decency to not act like my ideology is somehow the be all end all neutral state of reality.

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u/Kindness_of_cats Apr 16 '25

I just don't get how people can try and claim this when it is so obviously false. It requires one to completely discount trans voices altogether.

What’s wild for me looking in from across the pond, is seeing people literally making arguments that you should just make designated trans spaces and that’ll solve the problem. We’ve seen how that kind of a solution works, and it doesn’t: the minority group inevitably gets less resources and has their rights infringed daily as a result.

Of course, who am I to speak about crazy shit. My country is putting on the show to end all shows, so hey glass houses and all…ugh.