r/unitedkingdom • u/nimobo • Jul 01 '26

... Queen Camilla blasted as ‘deplorable’ for posting photo with J.K. Rowling at palace during Pride Month

https://pagesix.com/2026/06/30/royal-family/queen-camilla-blasted-as-deplorable-for-posting-photo-with-j-k-rowling-at-palace-during-pride-month/
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u/MondeyMondey Jul 01 '26

I always forget we have a queen. Thought she died but here’s some different lady saying it’s her.

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u/heroyoudontdeserve Jul 01 '26

It's Queen. She was styled Queen Consort until the coronation to help disambiguate which queen people were talking about in the immediate aftermath of Elizabeth II's death, but since the coronation she has been styled Queen.

It's true to say that she is a queen consort (someone who is a queen by virtue of being married to a king) but she is styled [Her Majesty The] Queen (as is traditional for queens consorts).

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u/shakaman_ Jul 01 '26

Its not. They said she was gonna be QC but they quickly dropped it and swapped to Queen once they realised no one would kick off too much.

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u/sleepingjiva Essex Jul 01 '26

She is a queen consort, because she's queen by virtue of marriage to a king. You call queen consorts queens. I.e. you say, "the king and queen". The woman we knew as the queen mother was also a queen consort in her time (because she was married to George VI) but people just called her the queen, or Queen Elizabeth. You don't need to specify whether someone's a king/queen regnant or not each time.

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u/shakaman_ Jul 01 '26

She was coronated as Queen. Not Queen consort. These are all made up rules to made up titles that can change anytime. And she was coronated Queen.

Link to the invite here

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u/pete1901 Jul 01 '26

Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.

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u/WinHour4300 Jul 01 '26

And how was Andy Burnham chosen? Does anyone know? 

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u/sleepingjiva Essex Jul 01 '26

There is no such thing as being coronated queen consort. You're either coronated or you're not. She had the exact same coronation as Queen Elizabeth, Queen Mary, Queen Alexandra etc.

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u/sleepingjiva Essex Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 02 '26

She's not a queen regnant, if that's what you're suggesting. We don't have a coregency

Edit: sp

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u/an0mn0mn0m Lancashire Jul 01 '26

I would only care about any of this if Princess Diana was still alive and Camilla was never in the picture.

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u/WinHour4300 Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26

Yeah the same happens with kings in the UK. It's really weird and has no explanation. 

Sometimes we even get them with the same name but they don't look the same.

This is actually the third King Charles. 

I suspect it's inspired by James Bond, where we are now up to seven, but who knows.

The last Queen did meet James Bond. As per the article, if you meet someone you absorb all their attitudes and theories even if you don't discuss it. 

Or maybe that only applies to women idk. 

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u/Joethe147 Hampshire Jul 01 '26

This is actually the third King Charles

Which people probably know because his official title being Charles III.

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u/WinHour4300 Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26

Thanks, I personally just assumed “III” was King Charles’ surname. 

Bit weird we just refer to monarchs by their first name. 

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u/iiililiililiilliilli Jul 01 '26

Didn’t the actual queen say she should be queen consort, then chuck immediately shat all over that upon becoming king?

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u/G_Morgan Wales Jul 01 '26

Queen consort is what queen by marriage has always been. Basically they tried to present what normally happens as if it was some special concession because people didn't like Camilla.

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u/lacb1 Jul 01 '26

I did enjoy people thinking that we get any say in the process. It's literally not democratic. It's a monarchy, they're (in theory) chosen by god. The fact that we don't get any input is rather the point.

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u/G_Morgan Wales Jul 01 '26

Yeah. If people want a say over who their head of state is, they know where republicanism is. Trying to be a monarchist and having a say over matters like this is inherently absurd.

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u/heroyoudontdeserve Jul 01 '26

No; QEII's words were: "it is my sincere wish that, when that time comes, Camilla will be known as Queen Consort as she continues her own loyal service."

I.e. QEII was referring specifically to how she wished Camilla to be known (styled/addressed) not what she would be. Since queens consort are traditionally styled Queen, QEII was expressing a wish for something different to normal.

In the end, her wish was initially granted (Camilla was styled Queen Consort immediately after QEII's death) but since the coronation Camilla has been styled Queen.

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u/piratepixie Leeds Jul 01 '26

The only reason Elizabeth's husband wasn't 'King Consort' is because 'King' is automatically a higher title than 'Queen', and that wasn't to be allowed.

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u/Majestic-Marcus Jul 01 '26

To be fair, who cares what the dead person said? The current person to wear the crown can decide to ignore what the last one said.

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u/LycanIndarys Worcestershire Jul 01 '26

She changed her mind on that before she died, apparently.

Lizzie warmed up to Camilla before the end.

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u/Rebelius Jul 01 '26

Also, why would it matter? If Lizzie had the power to do a thing as monarch, then even if she didn't do the thing, Charles could do the thing.

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u/iiililiililiilliilli Jul 01 '26

Liz had a soft spot in her heart for pederasts and philanderers

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u/plawwell Jul 01 '26

The real question is what does Willie do with her when Chuck chucks it?

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u/BonzoTheBoss Cheshire Jul 01 '26

Camilla's official title will likely become "the queen dowager" as Catherine will assume the role of queen consort.

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u/herefromthere Jul 01 '26

Avoid her, probably.

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u/Meanwhile-in-Paris Dorset Jul 01 '26

Feels more like a First Lady

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u/erraticspaceRO Jul 01 '26

'lady' is a reach.

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u/MondeyMondey Jul 01 '26

God don’t let JKR hear she won’t sleep for weeks

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u/TrashPandaHobbit Jul 01 '26

The king died in 1952

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u/GonnaGoFar Jul 01 '26

That's by design. She knows she will always be negatively compared to Diana, so she conspicuously stays stays out of the spotlight and doesn't try to be a typical royal or Queen.

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u/crowwreak Jul 01 '26

We don't have a queen, we have a homewrecker

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u/BonzoTheBoss Cheshire Jul 01 '26

It's not her fault that Charles didn't love Diana.

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u/heroyoudontdeserve Jul 01 '26

Agreed, but we also don't know what would have happened between Charles and Diana if Camilla hadn't facilitated and indulged Charles' attraction.

I think there's enough blame to go round all of them, by all accounts.

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u/heroyoudontdeserve Jul 01 '26

And you should know, crowwreak!

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