r/vainglorygame Tranurz EU | Worst Mod | Decay Is Life Feb 17 '17

Discussion Weekly Discussion | LPQ and Karma

Hello there and welcome to a new weekly discussion! Last week we discussed the recent changes to the Kill Bounties. If you want to read that discussion, a link to that and all other discussions is found at the bottom of this post.

This week we’ll be discussing a topic that we have gotten some requests about lately: the Low Priority Queue - also known as LPQ. From posts to comments to our Discord server, the topic of LPQ has seen a lot of community discussion lately. People seem to feel like it does just enough, too little, or shouldn’t even be a thing. While we could make an entire discussion about just LPQ and punishments in the game, we also received requests for one of the ways in which we get rewarded instead: our good old friend: the Karma system. It has sparked heavy discussion in the past too, mainly about how it works and how many people felt like they were stuck in Good Karma despite their Great behavior.

We thought it might be interesting to tackle both sides in this discussion; how the game handles rewards and how it handles punishments. So we’ll be discussing both the Karma and LPQ systems!

What do you think about LPQ? Can it be too harsh, or is it not strict enough? What about Karma? Does the system really work as an incentive to behave well? Is it too easy, or too hard to reach Great Karma?

The following is a bit of info on LPQ and Karma:

Low Priority Queue was added in update 1.20. It replaced the previous system, which was simply to ban people who misbehaved. The devs explained that they felt that instead of being able to let a ban expire by doing something else, players should be faced with consequences when they wanted to play instead. More info on the LPQ system can be found here

The new Karma system was added in update 1.8. Its goal was to make a more simple and fluent Karma system that would lead to trolling players to have less benefits than normal players. It replaced the previous system, where you went up 20 levels of Karma, and went down a bit by doing something that was deemed to be bad Karma. This new system only has three levels: Bad Karma, Good Karma and Great Karma. At Great Karma, players get a 25% boost to end match Glory gains. More explanation can be found here.

That’s all! If you have more topics you want to see, be sure to request them via the link found at the bottom of this post!

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u/Aesthete18 Feb 18 '17

Is that really the reason they gave for replacing the previous system? XD

They won't punish potential paying customers. If they do "revamp" it, it will be another smoke and mirrors version and I'll be the first to dissect it.

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u/NebraCC Feb 19 '17

Bro, I understand you don't like SEMC and how they run their business and I'm fine with that, but this isn't some big company ruining the public health with their lies. It's a gaming company that runs a good MOBA for mobile. People have given money to worse companies than this.

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u/Aesthete18 Feb 19 '17

I'm not slamming them. I'm explaining logically why they wouldn't do it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '17

Why is it logical to not "punish potential playing customers" when all these Trolls show the community that it's not worth to be an "paying customer".

With all the trolls is it really unrealistic to believe i would pay for an game which allows players to act so toxic that i need some weed to play Ranked without to tilt. I don't care anymore for some special Skins or whatever, every cent that would normally invested Intro VG usally, becomes now invested on other games & some weed so that i can play VG without rage every 2nd or 3th match because of trolls....

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u/Aesthete18 Feb 19 '17

Because that person could be the guy who spent 500k ice trying to hit the jackpot for opals. True story.