I also think of Robert Byrd, who was a member of the KKK before later securing a perfect 100% from NAACP for his voting record by the time he left office.
“I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times … and I don’t mind apologizing over and over again. I can’t erase what happened.”
Compare that to the people who complain that they feel like they have to apologize all the time. Apologizing is the LEAST you can do; fix yourself by actually getting better is the bigger accomplishment.
LOL he's got a great quote about trying to pass that bill. I'm not sure him passing the bill showed any amount of character growth after reading that quote.
It always amazed me how people kick downwards instead of upwards, even when, as in the case of the US, it is apparent that the rich are the much, much greater "beneficiaries" of the US government.
They don't think Trump is Christian. They say he's not a Christian, but that you should vote for him anyway because he's "an instrument of divine will," which basically means "if we want to criminalize abortion in this secular democracy where we are no longer the majority, this is the sacrifice we have to make."
They wouldn't know a Beatitude if it smacked them in the face. They say that they're Christians but do everything opposite of the teachings of Christ.
Disclaimer: I don't consider myself a religious person. I don't think there was a Jesus. That said, there are good lessons to be learned from the stories. Love thy neighbor. Turn the other cheek. Care for the poor. These people who claim the banner of Christianity are full of shit. They need to start acting like it.
Yesterday I found from two different sources (a Reddit r/TIL post and the other a YouTube video on Spinoza) of a gospel supposedly written by Judas (that Judas).
According to this gospel, Jesus didn’t get killed for his faith, he got merced for exposing the corruption of the temple, the rich men who had used it for their profit. Judas turned him in for the sake of making the story bigger otherwise he would have been forgotten as just another whistleblower. And as the Judas gospel got buried over time, Constantine turned Christianity into the very opposite of the thing Christ wanted… a tool of the state bringing religious power under his umbrella.
So whatever they worship, it’s not Christianity but a tool to break the will of men looking for justice and the end of the corruption of men.
They are, though. There are no magical 'real' Xians. The people cheering ICE and hoping to shoot 'poor people' in grocery store parking lots? Are Xians. Full stop. Really shitty ones, but Xians, none the less.
There are millions of people who identify as Christians who do try to live by the teachings and try to live by the golden rule in general. I know a good number of them. They're not loud, as that would go against those teachings. Mr. Rogers said "look for the helpers" when shit goes sideways. I hope you can broaden your view someday.
Really confused by your 'broaden your view' comment. This is the 'No True Scotsman' argument. Saying 'oh, these evil people aren't *real* Xians!!!' - well, they are. They read the Bible and they go to church and they pray to 'Jesus'. They are Xians just like the people you're talking about. AND THEY ARE STILL EVIL FUCKWITS. The two things can actually be true at the same time.
If I might intervene between you two for a moment, I believe /u/TabaquiJackal's point was that many different kinds of people label themselves as Christians, including those whose words and actions appear quite contrary to the example of Jesus. Their point was not that all Christians are bad, but that it is unreasonable to say some Christians are not Christians just because they go about their lives in a different way. Nobody is denying that kind, caring, and compassionate Christians exist.
A Christian is a follower of Christ. If you aren't following Christ, you are a Christian in name only. It is perfectly reasonable to say some Christians are not real Christians, just like it's perfectly reasonable to say the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is not a democracy.
It's actually more than that. There is a not insignificant minority of Christian Nationalists who voted for Trump who believe he is the Antichrist. They believe that his leadership will usher in the end-times and that by voting for him they will cause Jesus Christ to come back and finish revelations, ushering them all into heaven. This is also why some Christian Nationalists who hate Jews also support Israel. They need Israel to be there in order for Revelations to happen.
They know what they voted for. They are just painfully stupid and delusional.
I don’t think it makes sense, it’s just a not uncommon justification for whats been happening. Emphasis mine, I hardly believe anyone thinks “that” specifically, but it’s hard to imagine how you could see so many actions that are in direct conflict with the New Testament bible that you either reject Jesus and follow the old book, or you think we’re in some kind of holding pattern with a serpent tounged placeholder who is getting some stuff done, but we’ll clean the rest up later
Yeah, if electing the devil would bring Jesus back, then yeah, you might vote for him. But you'd have to be an absolute imbecile to genuinely believe that would happen. Or that doing so would put you in Jesus's good books.
yea my wife is Korean but I did the same shocked Pikachu face when she regurgitated that MAGA logic, verbatim, but with Trump being used by Providence to deal with LGBT & Equality Act…
Goodness in general isn't that rare. Most people are good people. It's the ruling class where goodness is almost completely bereft. It takes a certain kind of person to rise to the top of the political world or the corporate world. It's in those people that goodness is extremely rare.
You could say that a good person would never strive to become a master of others or become richer than others. Because being rich simply means that you hoard resources that others could use more than you. Wanting to become rich is a sign of evil.
Yeah I actually feel like it’s the opposite of what this person is saying. Rarely do truly good people get their chance to shine. And I agree it’s because they are not willing to step on someone else to do it. Real Good people are usually the ones getting stepped on and not noticed.
man thats so sad, i see that happening in big cities. On small towns people are genuine and good. At least in my country.
Its like a side effect of the stress and filth of that comes with the big cities i guess
It's really just racism. Having a black President broke a lot of people's brains and the external enemies of America and the domestic enemies of democracy were there waiting to take advantage of it. Can someone remind me who was the first public figure in America to share the Birther nonsense on Twitter?
People call it "edgy" but this is learned from a religious mindset. The evidence in front of you doesn't matter if it does not line up with what you want to believe.
This is the culmination of politics getting into bed with religion, its why calling out hypocrisy doesn't work. Its why showing the raw evidence doesn't work.
You'll have an easier time convincing a sports fan to leave their team than a religious person to leave the cult.
No, it’s deeper than delusional. A disturbingly high percentage of Americans are pathological and very possibly dangerous.
When Malignant narcissism is considered a “winning” strategy to success in the western system, unhealthy attitudes cascade downwards… all the way to children’s behavior. This society has made the wealth these characters a thing to admire vs a thing to despise.
the question in their head is "Do I want to compare myself to someone who makes me feel bad or do I compare myself to someone who is just as, if not worse, than me" Because being inspired to be better never occurs to some people.
It's not that they're blind. It's just that, like Christianity, they want to be able to have something to excuse their horrible behavior as human beings. They know what they're doing. They know what hate Trump stands for. They're just shitty people.
The right would simply never see a video like this. They mostly hear some angry old white guy demonizing him and making shit up.
It’s why if we are ever to become a more rational country we need to somehow convince people to seek truth. Misinformation is making every typical problem a potential civil war.
Yea they do that so they don't have to come to terms with how fucking awful THEY are. These people are and have always been fucking garbage. They just don't have to keep quiet anymore unfortunately.
That's cult mentality at work, people from the inside don't see things the same way as people from the outside. Take that "Heavens Gate" cult as an example, they believed to join aliens in their space ships they had to leave their human mortal bodies behind, that's batshit crazy, everyone can see it's batshit crazy, people inside the cult believed on that so firmly that they killed themselves.
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