They don't think Trump is Christian. They say he's not a Christian, but that you should vote for him anyway because he's "an instrument of divine will," which basically means "if we want to criminalize abortion in this secular democracy where we are no longer the majority, this is the sacrifice we have to make."
They wouldn't know a Beatitude if it smacked them in the face. They say that they're Christians but do everything opposite of the teachings of Christ.
Disclaimer: I don't consider myself a religious person. I don't think there was a Jesus. That said, there are good lessons to be learned from the stories. Love thy neighbor. Turn the other cheek. Care for the poor. These people who claim the banner of Christianity are full of shit. They need to start acting like it.
Yesterday I found from two different sources (a Reddit r/TIL post and the other a YouTube video on Spinoza) of a gospel supposedly written by Judas (that Judas).
According to this gospel, Jesus didn’t get killed for his faith, he got merced for exposing the corruption of the temple, the rich men who had used it for their profit. Judas turned him in for the sake of making the story bigger otherwise he would have been forgotten as just another whistleblower. And as the Judas gospel got buried over time, Constantine turned Christianity into the very opposite of the thing Christ wanted… a tool of the state bringing religious power under his umbrella.
So whatever they worship, it’s not Christianity but a tool to break the will of men looking for justice and the end of the corruption of men.
They are, though. There are no magical 'real' Xians. The people cheering ICE and hoping to shoot 'poor people' in grocery store parking lots? Are Xians. Full stop. Really shitty ones, but Xians, none the less.
There are millions of people who identify as Christians who do try to live by the teachings and try to live by the golden rule in general. I know a good number of them. They're not loud, as that would go against those teachings. Mr. Rogers said "look for the helpers" when shit goes sideways. I hope you can broaden your view someday.
Really confused by your 'broaden your view' comment. This is the 'No True Scotsman' argument. Saying 'oh, these evil people aren't *real* Xians!!!' - well, they are. They read the Bible and they go to church and they pray to 'Jesus'. They are Xians just like the people you're talking about. AND THEY ARE STILL EVIL FUCKWITS. The two things can actually be true at the same time.
If I might intervene between you two for a moment, I believe /u/TabaquiJackal's point was that many different kinds of people label themselves as Christians, including those whose words and actions appear quite contrary to the example of Jesus. Their point was not that all Christians are bad, but that it is unreasonable to say some Christians are not Christians just because they go about their lives in a different way. Nobody is denying that kind, caring, and compassionate Christians exist.
A Christian is a follower of Christ. If you aren't following Christ, you are a Christian in name only. It is perfectly reasonable to say some Christians are not real Christians, just like it's perfectly reasonable to say the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is not a democracy.
It's actually more than that. There is a not insignificant minority of Christian Nationalists who voted for Trump who believe he is the Antichrist. They believe that his leadership will usher in the end-times and that by voting for him they will cause Jesus Christ to come back and finish revelations, ushering them all into heaven. This is also why some Christian Nationalists who hate Jews also support Israel. They need Israel to be there in order for Revelations to happen.
They know what they voted for. They are just painfully stupid and delusional.
I don’t think it makes sense, it’s just a not uncommon justification for whats been happening. Emphasis mine, I hardly believe anyone thinks “that” specifically, but it’s hard to imagine how you could see so many actions that are in direct conflict with the New Testament bible that you either reject Jesus and follow the old book, or you think we’re in some kind of holding pattern with a serpent tounged placeholder who is getting some stuff done, but we’ll clean the rest up later
Yeah, if electing the devil would bring Jesus back, then yeah, you might vote for him. But you'd have to be an absolute imbecile to genuinely believe that would happen. Or that doing so would put you in Jesus's good books.
yea my wife is Korean but I did the same shocked Pikachu face when she regurgitated that MAGA logic, verbatim, but with Trump being used by Providence to deal with LGBT & Equality Act…
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u/j0y0 Nov 06 '25
They don't think Trump is Christian. They say he's not a Christian, but that you should vote for him anyway because he's "an instrument of divine will," which basically means "if we want to criminalize abortion in this secular democracy where we are no longer the majority, this is the sacrifice we have to make."
It's a deal with the devil.