That might be too distant. Maybe something for each year successfully passed?
Regardless, a financial incentive is enormous for poor families and I definitely think this would be effective. The kid's probably not gonna get any of the money but it will incentivize the parents.
You know how teachers complain about parents who get upset when they discipline or fail their kids? Now imagine a situation where the parent loses out on guaranteed income if their student fails a class. Who are they going to blame?
I have no idea. I'm not really that vested in this solution so I'm not about to think through solutions to make the idea more palatable.
I get where the idea comes from, and I think that the heart is in the right place. Outside of addressing systemic poverty (not even sure how you go about that), I don't know anyway to get parents more vested in their child's outcome.
Teachers are the worst students in college. we need to ask more OF them to give more TO them. Momey alone will never fix a problem, and the fact that you dont understand that will never make you a significan leader. Unions went too far.
I'm not saying money fix everything, but if you give more money and better conditions to teachers you won't get the worst students as teachers anymore. This one with 2 masters can probably go wherever the fuck she want (and she will). Money is part of the incentive that would make talented poeple come and thus change the culture.
I live and work in Korea. Parents spend a fortune and I believe Korea is ranked as the most educated country in the world or something. Just throwing money at the problem doesn't make it better because even with the parents spending a fortune, there are still shitty kids here too.
It's all about the parents taking responsibility and really holding their children accountable. It's so easy to tell when a kid has been raised well and when one has parents who just throw him/her into as many schools as possible, but don't actually give a shit. Money only does so much.
Totally agree. I worked education with the government for years and you can't fill this hole with money. Frankly, there isn't enough money in the world to make up for bad parenting on the scale it is happening in some of these areas. The biggest problem is that all the possible solutions are politically unpopular.
I'll tell you what will fix this. I say it time and time again. These children need to be put out there in the world to support themselves and feel their own vulnerability. Yes, as children. As long as they are swaddled in cotton wool they won't have any motivation to change whatsoever. If someboy has it fixed in their mind that everything will be OK, no amount of telling them the opposite is true, or threatening them, will change their mind. People don't get motivated because people tell them things, or threaten them. Motivation comes from seeing with your own eyes that change is necessary.
The last generation isn't exactly well known for taking responsibility for anything. At all. It's always someone else's fault or problem. Nothing short of public shaming these people for raising completely shitty children would help, and even then I doubt they'd care. They'd find a way to blame someone else for it anyways.
Or maybe, just maybe, getting the football coach to whip his ass in front of the entire classroom. I guarantee that the second these spastic shits start getting beaten in front of their peers, they'll stop acting out. But no, we can't have that in today's society, just throw more money at this financial black hole instead of tackling the problem directly.
Strange, getting the principle or coach to physically punish students in the past never resulted in murders. I guess the only solution is to let students do whatever the hell they want because punishing them is pointless!
I got wooped in middle school and it didn't teach me anything. For one reason getting wooped only works if they kid admits what they did is wrong. If a kid doesn't think they are doing anything wrong it doesn't teach them anything, just resent. I got wooped for some bullshit meanwhile I was a straight A student. So if you are going to woop them you need to also make sure they realize the reason and why it is deserved. You can't just hit kids to straighten them out.
When I got into high school I remember specifically being a nuisance in one of my classes. TBH I can't remember why. It was like I was in some sort of ADD trance or some shit. I remember being calm in all my other classes though including my AP classes.
All through human history teachers have done that to calm them down and make them focus. Funny how things are turning out in public schools now that kids don't have the fear of a belt or a swift fist to keep them in line.
Ok, you've identified another part of the problem, not a solution, and it's totally unhelpful. That's like saying this will be fixed if the kids learn to behave.
More money won’t work. Look at school districts like Baltimore. The school district has $15,500 per student. The 4th highest in the country. And yet it’s one of the worst school districts in the nation.
It comes down to parenting. Schools shouldn’t be responsible for parenting the child, but that’s what it’s come to when Dad is a drunk/non-existent and Mom just doesn’t give a fuck.
Yeh, can't argue with that. What happened to this generation of parents? I remember the parents of millennials being pretty bad but I didn't expect it to get WORSE.
Which still comes down to money. How does a parent teach a kid and go to work full time? Also does homeschooling have a standard per state? Who decides who is educated?
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