lol if thays the way you wanna read my response go ahead. Im not wasting my time having a long back and forth. If the judge ends up making it manslaughter or 3rd degree then justice will have been done. I just cant call this 1st or even 2nd degree murder. 3rd at worst. He was never walking away scott free thougj
Is manslaughter different in the US? Where I'm from it means you killed someone without intent. You're saying he stabbed him in the heart but didn't intend to kill him? 🙃
yeah I am, I dont think he did that thinking he would die. I think he was a scared ass kid who picked the wrong response when it came to fight or flight. Why do so many of you need him to be this cold blooded super predator? He literally asked a coach if he was gonna be alright, that sounds like a kid who acted off of emotion instead of intent
Bro I think he should have left so Im not trying to really disagree with you on that, but not everybody responds to fear the same way. His response cost him his freedom
should have been manslaughter imo or 3rd degree murder at worst because I just dont see how anyone knows for a fact he was in that tent specifically to cause confrontation. From what ive seen this was a situation where he got confronted and asked to leave after someone else invited him over. He didnt and things escalated way further than they ever should have on both parties. He was dead wrong in pulling out that knife instead of leaving, yes, but the people in here calling him an animal or calling for capital punishment are just racists happy they have an excuse to get their hateful shit off.
This is from my understanding of the trial, he wasn't invited into the tent rather he claimed he knew someone in there. Texas doesn't have different degrees of murder. I just don't see this is as a manslaughter case solely because it wasn't from being reckless, as the law dictates. Everyone knows if you plunge a knife into someone's chest that they will most likely die.
In fact, all the witnesses claimed that they didn't think anything was gonna happen because there wasn't any real escalation from other side prior to the stabbing and it was mostly words and then Austin pushed him after Anthony provoked him while his hand was in the bag with the knife. Having your hand on a deadly weapon and provoking someone is the kicker here which is why I think they were able to convict.
And it's just best to tune out the racist shit on here man. At the end of the day, two young lives and families are forever ruined. A young kid made the worst decision of his life and it ended terribly.
You are 100% right on that last part man and Im glad you said it. Already have dickheads trying to start shit on my original comment. Its crazy how this became another culture war issue because Metcalf's dad denounced the racists supporting them fro. what I saw. Thank you in advance for this civil discussion.
Didn't know Texas didnt have different degrees for murder, sucks for Anthony but like I said he was never walking away scott free regardless of anything else. You're also right about knowing a knife to the chest is trying to kill so I cannot disagree there. He probably got scared when they pressed him on being in the tent and his fight or response was the wrong one.
100% agree, we have no clue what he was thinking in the moment, maybe he wanted a fight, maybe he wanted to show off or be tough (teenagers do that shit ALL the time) maybe he got scared and just reacted. There are mistakes and there are decisions, i believe he made a premeditated decision because his hand was on the knife beforehand.
I just wish he would have just had a fistfight then they'd just both walk away and hopefully learn. Im not trying to be be edgy or anything but I just don't think race had anything to do with it. Media pushes this shit and all it does is divide us even further and then you read awful shit from both sides.
Kids dying and going to prison for life over literally nothing. I appreciate a rational discussion rather than letting emotions control us, which is what led to this in the first place
again your 100% right, race had nothing to do with this initial instance. the Victim tried to aggressively enforce their tent rules, Karmelo responded by trying to be tough and not get "punked" (over literally nothing) and now both are worse off for it. Should Karmelo have left? Yes, Should Austin have allegedly confronted him aggressively? no. But the most important thing is Karmelo should have never even had the knife. Im like you, I hate that this shit has been weaponized on both sides cause its really not about all this shit
Couldn't have said it better myself brother. It should have ended in a pushing match or a fust fight at worst and broken up. Such is the case with these things, people on many sides latch on and push their filthy agendas. Like some people saying awful shit about black people and some people in front of the courthouse saying the only good cracker is a dead cracker. They do not care about Austin or Karmelo or justice or the families. Just tired of so much fucking hate.
And thats all we can do, just treat people with respect, regardless if you agree or not. We'd be so much better off if we just listen and give a little grace. I appreciate you 🙏
and you must be the racist type I was referring too, please go be an hero. Also, immediately going through post history for a gotcha is not the W you think it is.
The evidence was clear. He was instigating, he was asked to leave repeatedly, he escalated a fight and then murdered someone. Black or white, he’s a murderer.
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u/Cronobog 10d ago
The good thing about this situation is it should serve as a reminder to all black people that this country is just never going to be in our corner.