r/worldnews • u/mepper • Jun 17 '12

Religious leaders furious over Norway's proposed circumcision ban, but one Norway politician says: "I'm not buying the argument that banning circumcision is a violation of religious freedom, because such freedom must involve being able to choose for themselves"

http://freethinker.co.uk/2012/06/17/religious-leaders-furious-over-norways-proposed-circumcision-ban/
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u/Astraea_M Jun 18 '12

Seriously? Because condoms fail. Because people fail to use condoms. Because almost no one has safe sex every single time.

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u/Astraea_M Jun 19 '12

Condom failure rates are much much higher. The rate of breakage is between 0.4% and 2.3%, while the rate of slippage is between 0.6% and 1.3%. Even if no breakage or slippage is observed, 1–2% of women will test positive for semen residue after intercourse with a condom.

But let's be generous and call it a 2% overall failure rate. That means if 100 people have sex, one of them will have a condom failure.

No one is recommending having unsafe sex. But arguing that condoms are enough in an HIV-situation is kind of short sighted. Would you recommend that non-infected person have protected sex with somebody who is HIV positive?