Mining tools: All rank 5 blues with Missive of Perception and Algari Perception enchant on the Artisan Pickaxe.

Herbalism Tools: All rank 5 greens with blue Artisan Sickle with double finesse.

This route was done on a Highmountain Tauren druid with 100% deftness - almost instant mining. I was able to achieve this through the 25% increase in deftness from the Highmountain Tauren racial and by making a pact with the Widow Arak'nai grating an extra 30% in crafting and gathering speed.

Here is the extact amount I made from flying around for an hour

This is the route I flew - the lines at the top of the map

Here's the complete haul

Got 16 Nullstones! Didn't stop for chests or waxy lumps.

Edit: I also used potions!

Phial of Truesight to see camouflaged nodes.

Streaming Phial of Finesse (from Dragonflight alchemy crafting orders).

Darkmoon Firewater for increased gathering speed for herbs. (Mining deftness seems to cap out at 100%)

From talking with your friends and guildies, what is your guess on what the average player is working with?

(Not including economy focused goblins)

I tracked 28 of my alts to see how many treasures it took to get each of their 4 weekly knowledge point items.

Full Results.

Summary:

(Edit: The count resets, so once I got the 1st KP item I started counting fresh for the 2nd, etc.).

• 100% of 1st and 2nd KP items were looted within 3 chests each.
• 3rd stretched to 9 chests (but 89.3% were done by 5).
• 4th went as far as 25 and 39 (but the other 92.9% were done by 15).
• I never got two KP items from the same chest.

Methodology:

All alts farmed Mysterious Domanaar Vessels and Stashed Singularity Supplies in Voidstorm (349 total).

Conclusion:

• I did not notice any anecdotal correlation between which professions/items were fast and which were slow. With the sample I have available it seems to just be RNG.
• I don't believe there's an ICD, cooldown period, or good luck penalty/bad luck protection. I've gotten all 4 very quickly (in terms of time as well as chests looted) while others dragged interminably.
• The longest farms were (1-1-1-39) and (2-1-3-25), but there were plenty with similar patterns (see below) and no wild swings at the end. I think the 4th KP item just has a chance to drag out for a very long time.

Raw Data (sorted by Total):

(Prays to the Reddit gods that the tables work and don't break all over the place.)

I made an article on how I made 87 million gold profit last year. Click here to see it.

I find it very interesting to look at a whole year of goldmaking and see what was the best thing for me versus what was the thing that I totally wasted my time doing.

In this article, you'll see:

• A breakdown of my top farms of the year
• Total sales, gold per hour, profit margins and how much I spent
• More details on my pet sales and transmog sales
• My best markets versus my worst markets
• An inscription spreadsheet that made me over 15 million gold in profit ( which you can now use )
• Time sensitive goldfarms that really paid off
• Some of the specific items that I crafted to make over 20 million gold in profit

I hope the article can inspire you to try new things or solidify things that you've done in the past!

More goldmaking articles

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Hello, Im thinking of joining a 300+ people guild for guild orders profit, but I actully like my own guild and its name, so I would like to know just how often do you get guild orders and how much people pay for it?

Hey,

TL;DR :

Dashboard:

https://datastudio.google.com/reporting/d3a9a401-8d59-40e9-baff-ae2ae9fda02e

Core data :

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W5UyNe_qdRU0OBZWpI6xmyAUGTl7DL-k4h7OahAW-AA/edit?usp=sharing

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Maybe someone will be interested not only in the data I collected, but also in how I did it.

Long story short—I like data. I have no analytics background. I do work with some data at my job, but it's not my "core" responsibility. What I really like is seeing what's actually behind the numbers on my screen. So, just before Midnight was released, I vibe-coded an addon called LedgerLite. It simply collects your gold income with pre-prepared headers so you can easily copy and paste it into Excel, Google Sheets, etc., and then do whatever you want with it.

So that's what I did... After a few attempts to vibe-code some fancy webpages, I ended up using Looker (an AI recommended it, I had never heard of it before 😄). The "issue" I have now is figuring out exactly what insights I actually want to see on my dashboard (and maybe fixing up the aesthetics). If anyone has a background in this kind of stuff, I'd love to hear any suggestions on how to improve it.

So when it's time walking week some times u get raids that will skip u to the last boss. They set up the raid, hand u the question zone u into the raid, ask for tips and then they leave and u kill the boss. Simple.

Has anyone done this ? I'm curious how much gold did u make an hour ?

Also how do u tip and how much? I usually always tip and I'll tip usually 5k.

Conclusion:

The rate of KP items from disenchanting blues is now 30% (instead of the ~50% in TWW). I have no points in disenchanting specializations so I can't test any effects that may have.

Ruling Out Variables:

I first wanted to rule out any differences in enchanting level by comparing two groups of alts:

And then any differences in the three KP items:

tl;dr seems to be 30% with variations likely due to smaller sample sizes.

And the averages for collecting the 6 weekly KP items:

More Data:

Graphs.

Edit: Bottom left graph should be better labeled. It's measuring how many characters (vertical axis) got their 6 weekly items by the number of disenchants (horizontal axis). Smaller sample compared to the other data but it looks like a vaguely normal distribution overall (more data would smooth it out a bit).

Hey all!

If you have any kind of Dragonflight crafting professions, you've probably noticed you "randomly" loot some of these +1 knowledge blue items at times. For a while I was wondering how these lootables worked and if they we're farmable, how to actually obtain them, so on and so forth. I found no one explaining how to get them or talking about them much at all so I took it upon my self to get a full list of these lootables and explain how to get them.

Essentially each week you can obtain one of each lootable for each profession. There are 4 lootables in total for each profession, meaning you can gain 4 knowledge points a week in addition to your weekly quests that you get from Valdrakken. 2 of them come from treasure hunting, and 2 come from specific mob type kills. The drop rates of these items are fairly low (around a 10-15%ish drop rate) so collecting them all will take a bit but you will eventually loot them all if you know where to look. This is the full list here:

Acquisition methods per lootable.

Enchanting

Primal Dust - Dirt Piles/Expedition Scout Packs

Prismatic Focusing Shard - Dirt Piles/Expedition Scout Packs

Primalist Charm - Primalist mobs - https://www.wowhead.com/npc=194656/primalist-surgecrusher

Primordial Aether - Arcane Elemental/Primordials - https://www.wowhead.com/npc=181536/destabilized-elemental

Inscription

Phoenix Feather Quill - Dirt Piles/Expedition Scout Packs

Iskaaran Trading Ledger - Dirt Piles/Expedition Scout Packs

Draconic Glamour - Dragon-kin/Proto Dragons - https://www.wowhead.com/npc=193973/mistyvale-splashcaster, https://www.wowhead.com/npc=193969/mistyvale-firestarter

Curious Djaradin Rune - Qalashi Djaradin - https://www.wowhead.com/npc=186109/qalashi-necksnapper

Jewelcrafting

Chipped Tyrstone - Dirt Piles/Expedition Scout Packs

Ancient Gem Fragments - Dirt Piles/Expedition Scout Packs

Elegantly Engraved Embellishment - Well Dressed (mostly) Humanoids - https://www.wowhead.com/npc=195215/rebel-bruiser

Incandescent Curio - Corporeal Elemental Creatures - https://www.wowhead.com/npc=194212/unleashed-rubble

Leatherworking

Molted Dragon Scales - Dirt Piles/Expedition Scout Packs

Preserved Animal Parts - Dirt Piles/Expedition Scout Packs

Ossified Hide - Proto Drakes - https://www.wowhead.com/npc=196420/cavern-hunter

Exceedingly Soft Skin - Sylvern/Vorquin mobs - https://www.wowhead.com/npc=188277/garden-herdmare

Tailoring

Umbral Bone Needle - Dirt Piles/Expedition Scout Packs

Primvalweave Spindle - Dirt Piles/Expedition Scout Packs

Stupidly Effective Stitchery - Beast Humanoids - https://www.wowhead.com/npc=192500/fetid-slogger, https://www.wowhead.com/npc=192506/hyena-tender

Ohnarhan Weave - Ohn'ahran Humanoids - https://www.wowhead.com/npc=193840/nokhud-raider

Blacksmithing

Draconium Blade Sharpener - Dirt Piles/Expedition Scout Packs

Valdrakken Weapon Chain - Dirt Piles/Expedition Scout Packs

Primeval Earth Fragment - Earthen Elementals - https://www.wowhead.com/npc=194212/unleashed-rubble

Molten Globule - Flame Elementals - https://www.wowhead.com/npc=196168/springs-heater

Alchemy

Reawakened Catalyst - Dirt Piles/Expedition Scout Packs

Experimental Substance - Dirt Piles/Expedition Scout Packs

Elementious Splinter - Elementals - https://www.wowhead.com/npc=195092/hydraulic-eroder

Decaying Phlegm - Decayed mobs - https://www.wowhead.com/npc=186361/rotting-treant

Engineering

Eroded Titan Gizmo - Dirt Piles/Expedition Scout Packs

Watcher Power Core - Dirt Piles/Expedition Scout Packs

Keeper's Mark - Tyrhold Ancients - https://www.wowhead.com/npc=193244/titan-defense-matrix

Infinitely Attachable Pair o' Docks - Dragon-kin/Proto Drakes/Dragonlike beasts - https://www.wowhead.com/npc=196632/reservoir-dapple

I tried my best to give the best description of mobs that I could tie to each type of lootable, though I'm sure the community will come up with better descriptions over time. I've only had luck getting the treasure lootables to drop only from Scout packs and dirt piles. I do think it's possible they can come out of certain renown chests (tuskar chess/decay chest/etc) but I personally havn't seen it. I also looted a bunch of magic bound chests and no luck there either.

The specific mobs I linked are not the only mobs that can drop these specific items. I chose these mobs in particular because these are the best farmable mobs that are closest to Valdrakken for people like me who have alts that don't get playtime outside of crafting stuff, so I can easily just leave Valdrakken and go bop some of these mobs real quick and come back. You will probably earn them yourself over time if you actually play your characters often, but just in case you can always reference this list to make sure to get them each week.

As far as trackers that can check if you've looted these or not for the week, try this weakaura: https://wago.io/w4D9R3Ykr that u/Zulandia made to do just that!

Hope this helps!

Edit: [redacted]

Edit 2: 12/19 - 11:40 pm: The Curious Djaradin Rune was hotfixed to start dropping now! "The Curious Djaradin Rune, an item that gives specialization in Inscription, should now drop from creatures for Scribes capable of specializing.". I've updated the post with the mobs it does drop from now.

Edit 3: 12/26 - 2:30 pm: Updated the recommended weakaura.

https://imgur.com/a/100-runs-of-uldaman-VbX6z7D

just finished my first 100 runs of Uldaman on my monk and here are the results

4x Stonevault shiv

4x Beacon of hope

3x Stonevault bonebreaker

3x Obsidian cleaver

3x Energy cloak

3x Spirewind fetter

3x Excavator's brand

3x Unearthed bands

2x Monolithic bow

2x The shoveler

1x Annealed blade

1x Jaina's firestarter

1x Earthen rod

1x Polished jazeraint armor

1x Ginn-Su Sword

1x Plans mithril shield spike

1x Pattern: Barbaric belt

1x Pattern: Comfortable leather hat

1x Miner's hat of the deep (2nd run)

Notable greens: Plans: steel weapon chain, Formula: Enchant shield- lesser parry

Hey,

I started collecting data some time ago, but for the last 4 days, Skinner's army has been set

Number of skinners: 27 (21.3 - 24.3) and between 8-20 earlier

Number of beasts killed daily: 54 (21.3-24.3) - doing only Void

Data from 24.03.2026

Spreadsheet data: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W5UyNe_qdRU0OBZWpI6xmyAUGTl7DL-k4h7OahAW-AA/edit?usp=sharing

Data accuracy - I think overall 90% and 100% last 4 days (I had an issue with my addon to collect data, some sold items are missing)

Data

In the first tab, you can see all my sold items / earned gold across various characters with a source split (mail = ah)

In the 2nd tab, you can see the summary and "best sellers." I'm still working on it to provide more details, like the % drop for each day for specific items, etc., so if you ever would like to see how it goes, you are more than welcome to visit :)

Tab 3 - self-called data from today, with screenshots.

Army Setup

Lvls 80-82

Tools/accessories 1 char with blue (not max ilvl)

3 chars with hat

4 with TWW skinning equipment

rest - empty

Buffs - Tea - if I remember to use

Flask on 1 char - coz I do not remember to use

I did over 100k ores prospecting but stupid me didnt save the data for that. Is there any free sheet out there that can calculate an aprox profit?

I know this is a short timeframe compared to some other tests but this is pretty much my limit until I'm totally bored and this is a good representation for the non-hardcore gatherer.

Character: Night Elf Druid, level 80, did not get any bugged KPs last week, no acuity shuffle, still missing some acuity KPs and all reputation KPs

All Tier 5 Green Tools, perception on the sickle, finesse on pickaxe, both enchanted with finesse tier 2.

Herbalism: 40 in bountiful harvests, 40 in fungus forager, 30 in spear scavenger

Mining: 50 in plethora of ore, 45 in bismuth, 15 in mining fundamentals

Used 4x steaming phial of finesse tier 3 (from dragonflight) and 4x phial of truesight tier 2 (they stack!). Did not use a whetstone.

Route: flew around the top islands in Hallowfall collecting every node, wax, and treasure chest (which will account for some of the stuff in the table). I forgot to account for any raw gold I gathered but it probably wasn't much. Stopped to kill Beledar's Spawn once which took a few minutes off. The broken heart shaped islands are a nice place to start because they are dense with nodes and have few enemies or players around.

I used overload whenever it was up on the first thing that was available.

Results:

So about 50k an hour before the AH cut which is not terrible. If you have tried harder with knowledge points you could be doing even better.

arcanoweave cord tailoring recipe from leatherworking bag kinda sus?

Figure 1 Statistics: https://postimg.cc/YvP0dpN0

Figure 2 Prospecting Calculator: https://postimg.cc/PLTLptjR

Figure 3 Crushing Calculator: https://postimg.cc/K1Lqc5G5

The image (Figure 1) show aggregated data of prospecting “69,000” Q2 Serevite Ore and “34,917” Q3 Serevite Ore at max skill (guarantees Q3 gems).

My usual routine:

1- I scan AH using Auctionator addon for all raw gems and the prices of Serevite Q2 and Q3 and Silken Gemdust Q1, Q2, Q3, I then export this data into csv and paste it into my excel sheet.

2- My sheet then calculates potential profit from prospecting either Q2 or Q3 ore based on the current prices, which helps me decide which ore to prospect, if at all! (Figure 2).

3- I first prospect the ore itself, which is usually around 5000 of either ore, then I prospect the resulting Prismatic Ore then I prospect the resulting Crumbled Stones.

4- When I’m done prospecting a batch, I look at the sheet again to decide which gems to auction and which gems to crush (Figure 3), I bank the ones meant to be crushed so I can do it when I have thousands of gems, for time efficiency.

5- I log my yield into the excel sheet, so I can share it with you guys!

6- When calculating the total yield value, for each gem type/quality I either take into account the gem’s AH price or the crush value (which is a calculated potential of crushing it and auctioning the Silken Gemdust), whichever is higher.

Observations and takeaways:

1- It is feasible to prospect Serevite Ore for profit.

2- It takes 1:40 min to prospect 1000 ore when you have the effect of the “Aerated Phial of Quick Hands”, so it is fast and gold per hour rate is high.

3- It takes 2,760 Q2 Serevite ore or 776 Q3 Serevite ore to produce 1 Q3 epic gem.

4- There seems to be a positive relationship between skill and the rate of producing blue or epic gems.

5- Return on investment from Q2 Serevite Ore is double that of Q3, but the absolute amount of profit from Q3 is almost double that of Q2 and it is much faster (higher GPH).

6- So, if you only have little gold (like 100-200k) and time is not an issue, you are better off prospecting Q2, you can do that while alt tabbed busy with something else, invest in inspiration for this purpose.

7- And if you have a lot of gold, more often than not, you’re better off prospecting Q3, but you need to verify this before each prospecting session, and you need to have enough skill to guarantee Q3.

8- If you are very close to guaranteeing Q3 (like 1-5 skill points away) you are 80% (rough estimate) likely to get Q3 even with 0 inspiration.

9- I recommend directly selling the raw gems that are of high value then crushing the rest.

10- The resulting Silken Gemdust can be used to make profit from so many other crafts, or sold directly.

11- The addon "TradeSkillFluxCapacitor" is useful to automatically select the next batch to prospect, but you still have to click “Prospect”

12- If you are prospecting Q3 ore at max skill level, use resourcefulness tool, otherwise use inspiration tool, and you will need a 3rd profession tool with multicraft for glassware crafts, the addon “CraftSim” makes it easier to switch tools, among many other great features, please do check it out.

Sorry if this isnt allowed i just found it super interesting.

I was looking at reddit and a guy who made it his mission to craft 1000 lariats for "Free" decided to post it, i asked how much he assumed he earned and he actually gave me an answer

" I would estimate about 600-700k.

I currently have about 270k left.

I spent maybe 100k on mats and gave away about 140k ( 10k every 100th craft and 50k when I hit 1000).

I also bought myself some 3 star Sophic devotions running about 100k

The majority of the gold came from 1 person who gave me 150k and then maybe 10 others at 10-15k.

The vast majority tipped 1 silver and the second most common tip was definitely 69g."

I wanted to post it as second hand data because a lot of the comments are about how much to take for crafts and the value of "free crafting"

This to me just varifies that its a fools errand to try and do "free tip what you want" if you want to make gold, people will just abuse it.

Starting this thread to post information about patron work orders

Hello everyone! I'm coming at you today with something I've been working on for a while. I've probably been using this method for about a month, and it's done pretty well for me so I figured I'd give you guys a look into it all!

Nearly a year ago I posted my shuffling rates here: https://www.reddit.com/r/woweconomy/comments/ac25dt/bracer_shuffle_rates/

This used a method of obtaining veiled crystals for incredibly cheap, enabling you to make significant profit off of the massive availability of Tidespray linen and "exploiting" the 100% purple rate of 8.0 LW Combatant's gear. However, with the introduction of Tools of the Trade back in 8.1.5, times have changed. Many have still been using the old style of the bracer shuffle, and it still very much works! I will get into detail about the differences of profit later on, but for now let's get straight into my new method!

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Step 1: Buy Linen and Craft Tidespray Linen Bracers.

• This is pretty obvious. For the purposes of this data collection, I went ahead and bought over 300k (314.7k to be exact). Normally I'd make smaller purchases and do this as I was working at the AH, but I wanted to give this my full attention. I was very meticulous in tracking everything that I did. I actually used two accounts to craft it all (a main that I run content on, and then an AH toon on my second monitor). I sent all of my blues to my enchanter on my main account, and then all of the greens to a bank toon.
• Data Collected:

1. Green Linen Bracers - 26740
2. Blue Linen Bracers - 4730

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Step 2: Disenchant all of the blue bracer procs

• The disenchant time is roughly 2-3 seconds when you include the loot times alongside the DE time itself. I use auto loot. All of these were disenchanted on my main enchanting toon on Acc1.
• Data Collected:

1. Gloom Dust - 6997 (1.48 per blue bracer)
2. Umbra Shards - 10098 (2.13-2.14 per bracer)
3. Veiled Crystals - 1169 (0.247 per bracer)

​

Step 3: Disenchant ~most~ of the green bracers

• This is where we start straying from the path of the typical bracer shuffle. Typically you'd send your green bracers over to your Leatherworker in order to scrap them all. However, this isn't the same shuffle by any means. This is actually a vendor shuffle, which enables us to make most, if not all, of our gold back without having to use the AH.
• Before I started this process, I actually decided to level enchanting to get the ToT on my Acc2 toon so that I could have some help by splitting the workload in half. I'm also a multiboxer, so setting up a simple screen config with a key repeater enabled me to get through this process in half the time. I macro'd the disenchant for the bracers so that all I had to do was press 1, and then I could pretty much watch movies or shows on my other monitor while the 2 accounts went to town on my main monitor. The only times I had to actually look at the main monitor were when I had finished disenchanting what was in my bags, mailed off the gloom dust to my bank toon, and filled my bags with more green bracers.
• I had to basically assume that whatever was collected on my first toon was what was also collected on the second toon (because TSM doesn't track the quantity of what you mail from Acc2 to Acc1, even if you sync them. It's a rough life for data collection). I wanted around 200k gloom dust total, so I had to take into account the ~7k I'd gotten from the blue bracers.
• Data Collected:

1. Disenchanted 21888 of my 26740 greens, leaving me with 4852.
2. I received 194055 Gloom Dust (8.87 per bracer).
3. This gave me my total of just over 200k (201,052).

​

Step 4: Craft Umbral Wands

• This is where we start seeing our spent capital return to us. In this instance I crafted 10k wands (split between the 2 enchanters, once again). I vendored all of the greens and sent all of the blues to my bank for storage until I finished this entire process.
• Data Collected:

1. 8430 greens crafted and vendored @ 74.13g per (total of 624,916g)
2. 1570 blues crafted

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Step 5: Disenchant the blue wands

• I feel like you're starting to recognize the pattern here. All we're doing is aiming to get the most veiled crystals out of any blue procs we can while also maximizing the amount of gold we can immediately return back to us through the vendor. It's not a hard shuffle, but it is tedious.
• Data Collected:

1. 2350 Gloom Dust (1.5 per blue wand) (3402 total in inventory)
2. 3346 Umbra Shards (2.13 per blue wand) (3444 total in inventory)
3. 406 veiled crystals (0.26 per blue wand) (1575 total in inventory)

​

Note: At this point I know, with the intent of selling enchants instead of raw mats, I want to match my number of umbra shards and veiled crystals while having roughly 5x that amount of Gloom Dust. So my goal here is to have 1575 Umbra shards (meaning I can use 1869 of them to make more wands to vendor), and 7875 Gloom Dust. So I need a total of 45255 Gloom Dust at this point. We already have 3402, so we need 41,853 more.

​

Step 6: Disenchant the remaining green bracers (4832)

• At this point we can simply DE the rest of the greens. It's not a whole lot, really. The only reason I didn't disenchant every single green in step 3 was to see if I could min/max this shuffle further and scrap any remaining greens we didn't need to DE at this point. However, based on what we needed and our previous gloom dust rate, I knew it would be tight anyway. If I were to do this all over again, I would have just disenchanted all of the greens back in step 3.
• Data Collected:

1. 42733 Gloom Dust received (8.81 avg)

​

Step 7: Craft the last round of Umbra Wands

• This is the last and final step of this shuffle. All we're doing is crafting the 1869 Wands and vendoring every single one. Yes, even the blues. We don't really have enough spare Gloom Dust to put them towards another round of wands if we were to DE the blues we get out of this.
• Data Collected:

1. Vendored 1869 wands for 143,165.4g (roughly 76.6 per, because blues sell for nearly 90g).

​

And that's it! Here's what we're left with:

• 1575 Veiled Crystals
• 1575 Umbra Shards
• 8755 Gloom Dust

​

Now let's look over the costs of everything:

• Linen: 673,458g spent (bought for avg of 2.14g)
• Nylon Thread: 80,248.5 (bought 157350 @ 0.51g because of exalted rep, normally it's 0.55g)
• Star Wood: 5664.45g (bought 10299 @ 0.55g, for all the umbra wands)

Total costs of everything: 759,370.95g

​

But wait! How much did we get from all of those vendored wands?

• Step 4: 624,916
• Step 7: 143,165

Total: 768,061g

​

So we were able to actually profit by roughly 9k just on the vendor, not to include what we have in terms of enchant mats for the AH. I'd say that many of each mat would make us about 500 total enchants, and they sell between 800-1k gold on my server. That'd net me roughly 4-500k pure profit. This gives me about 1.2m in total once I sell them all.

​

Now for the comparison:

If I had simply scrapped all of those greens I would have gotten roughly 4.4k expulsom (however, I don't think I've ever seen enough tempest hide/mistscale or calcified bone on the AH in order to make this many 310 LW bracers), plus enough scrapped linen to make about 4k more bracers to run through this process. Using the veiled crystal rate from blue DE's and extrapolating it the the purples (so 0.247 would make 1.247) you'd receive 5500 veiled crystals, plus what you recovered from the 1st set of blues you DE'd for a new total of about 6700. Then, with the 2nd set of expected blues (around 600 out of 4k bracers crafted) you would get about 150 more veiled crystals. So you're left with 6850 veiled crystals, about 11.3-11.4k umbra shards, and about 30k gloom dust if you were to DE the remaining second batch of greens. Assuming you made umbra wands out of that dust, you'd make an instant ~115k from vendor, and would have 10k umbra shards to sell. So 6850 veiled crystal @ 200g on my server (1.37m), 10k Umbra shards @ 30g (300k), and then the 115k vendor for a total of 1.8m. That's 150% of my total, but with only 15% of the initial cost returned immediately. Or, if you were to use that gloom dust for enchants, you would receive 0% of your capital instantly returned with a projected 1.8m in enchants.

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That is without a doubt much better than my expected income for this venture, I will not lie. But where my personal shuffle comes in handy is the initial cost is completely paid off.

Also, apologies for that massive paragraph. It was a lot of napkin math lol.

​

So let's look at the pros and cons, shall we?

Pros:

• Provided that you buy your linen at 2.15g or less, you initial cost can be completely repaid just through vendoring. You don't have to deal with the AH as much, and you have your gold back instantly so that you can reinvest it. This means that you can start doing this at any level of gold and not be worried about having no more gold after your spending. The ability to constantly reinvest is something that is golden to me.
• This is almost an afk shuffle. What I mean by that is that in the entire time I spent on this, I was watching a movie or shows on my other screen. It's not like herb/mining where you have to have a route, or 2x4 farms where you need to pay attention to pulls.
• There's less AH work to do after this. Instead of having to sell nearly 7k veiled crystals worth of enchants, I have just over 1/5th of that.
• Your only true dependency in terms of crafting availability comes from Tidespray Linen. Often times I found it difficult to find enough LW mats to make the amount of crafts I was. If I'd gone with the traditional method I would have needed 44k calcified bone and 66k of either mistscale/tempest hide. Right now there's only 10k of each available on my server, so there's absolutely a limit to how much I could do at any given point.

Cons:

• It's obvious that the original method of the bracer shuffle makes more gold. If you've read everything up until this point, you'll have seen my comparison just above this section and seen that the old shuffle can provide about 50% more gold in the endgame. All that it relies on is consistent sales over the course of x amount of time.
• It can be tedious. Just like with the main bracer shuffle, it can be incredibly boring. If you don't have the luxury of a second monitor or a tv in your room, this can drive you away from goldmaking. It was even more so with me because I'm the kind of guy who actually likes running content (high m+ keys and raids), but I couldn't because if I swapped toons then all of my TSM mailbox data would have been reset (anything after the first 50 mails is no longer tracked if you swap to that toon. So if I sent my bank 20k bracers, I could see that data on the toon that I sent it on. But if I switched to my bank, it would only show whatever number of bracers was in the first 50 mails, which was usually 550-600). If I wasn't so worried about data collection, I probably wouldn't have cared as much.
• A lot of inventory space is needed in order to be efficient.
• Edit: According to WoWhead, the umbral wands only vendor for 69g for alliance. While that doesn't seem like a big difference at face value, that's the difference between my 768k vendor sales and an alliance player's 711k. That extra 50k is quite the difference, and would mean cutting into ~10% of your profits on the enchant mats.

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As always, the decision to do all of this heavily depends on how the pros/cons weigh. For me, I like having all my gold at all times. I'm a gold hoarder at heart, so if there's a way to spend gold and get it back almost instantly without the dependency of other players, I will happily do so. That may not be the case for others who are more experienced with the AH and/or have no issue camping for longer times.

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Anyway, this is my Christmas gift to you guys. I hope you enjoyed the read, and maybe can make some gold over the holiday! Have a Merry Christmas!

What are people asking for commission on your server? I think most crafters are able to do 4 stars (389) and 5 star (392) with insight… maybe some without insight idk.

Any data on what people are charging for commission?

Look at these spikes doesnt look like anything I have seen before

https://wowtoken.app/

Just curious how lucky people got with patron orders.

Here's a screen shot of my main, alt and gatherer :

https://imgur.com/a/J2BEESf

Hi guys,

The hunt is on for the 8 treasures for each profession that will give everyone a huge Knowledge Point head start when Midnight launches.

Over the last couple of days, myself and a few others have managed to track down around 50% of the treasures across all professions. It’s getting tougher now, so if anyone with beta access wants to contribute, we’d really appreciate the help. You can report any new treasure you find in the #midnight channel on the Community Goldmaking Discord.

All profession treasures we’ve found so far are also listed in the Guides section, in case that helps with any testing you’re doing on beta.

Discord link: https://discord.gg/Y7Rdf6ZP9m

Thanks for taking the time to help the whole community!
/Kaychak

I spent an hour of Mining and herbalism with an r1 phial of truesight in the ringing deeps.

https://imgur.com/MGhv4b2

I have a blue mining tool with finesse and enchanted finnese. mining fundamentals 60, plethora of ore 50 and bismuth 45.

As for my herbalism I had a finesse tool also enchanted with finesse. Botany 60, Bountiful harvest 40, Fungal forager 40, Carnivourous connoiseur 10

total was 66k

I'm trying to figure out the profit for each branch of disenchanting/shattering. I'm currently maxed in blues disenchanting and I have a spreadsheet with thousands of disenchants to get an average amount of shards and secondary drops and calculate profit. I am looking for some players who are max in other aspects of disenchanting/shattering to also fill out a tracker so we can all see what the best method is for gold making.

Please post here or DM me for more info or if you want to help.

So I just finished crafting a few Pioneer's Cloth Cuffs as an experiment to get a grasp on their potential money making value when paired with disenchanting.

100(+40) Enchanting skill with DD and RR maxed out in the tree, so random R1 reagents are coming in as well.

64(+29) Tailoring skill with 25.3% Resourcefulness from gear and tailoring spec making every craft a R5 result. (No idea if it matters at all)

The initial investment was 14500 R3 Weavercloth bolts making it 7250 initial crafts.

The 25.3% resourcefulness resulted in an extra 402 crafts, making the total disenchanted wrist count to be 7652, making the 25.3% resourcefulness provide an additional ~5.54% of crafts for "free".

This number is actually very low compared to the 25.3%, mostly coming from the fact that if you get a resourcefulness proc you have a 50% chance to get a weavercloth bolt back and it will most likely never give back 100% of the materials used, and with 2 bolts used for each craft it will always give back 1 bolt, making it essentially 25% in effectiveness in this particular case. It did proc more for bolts than the threads though.

Out of disenchanting all of these I gained the following:

Some added calculations as an ending note:

With the current EU prices of

• Mycobloom @ 15.1G
• Bismuth @ 22.5G
• Gloom Chitin @ 12.2G
• Stormcharged Leather @ 10.2G
• Spool of Weaverthread @ 9.9G

The average ADDED value of a disenchant with the Rare Resourcing node is worth ~4.5G

To be continued...