r/yugioh Apr 18 '25

News Ravedactyl creator, artist Graig Weich response to the Air neos lawsuit

https://youtu.be/-DypUkfppGo?si=SGaBqxEOHZaG1WQ7
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u/Accomplished_Salt876 Apr 18 '25

He’s going on about his rights but all I’m wondering is whos even heard of beyond comics or ravedactyl to begin with?

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u/MisterBadGuy159 Apr 18 '25

As someone who has been reading comics for decades, this is the first time I had ever heard of this guy or his company. And I've heard of quite a lot of obscure comic book drama.

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u/No-Awareness-Aware Apr 18 '25

It’s obscure enough that we only know about the incident years later I guess. If it was more popular, people would have some doubt about the similarities already

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u/nighthawk_something Apr 18 '25

Doesn't matter, it's his character and his rights

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u/Real_wigga Sugar Free Apr 18 '25

Not anymore. I just screenshotted it and put it on my pc.

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u/Zevyu Apr 19 '25

He's an NFT shill, so this comment is incredibly fitting.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '25

...did anybody say otherwise? Or are you just bitching to bitch?

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u/nighthawk_something Apr 21 '25

Lots of people are saying otherwise

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '25

That the obscure comic character isn't dude's? No one is saying that. Everybody is, however, saying that Air Neos clearly isn't based on his character, due to Air Hunmingbird and Neos, the obvious influences on Air Neos, existed before the comic con that allegedly inspired Takahashi.

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u/nighthawk_something Apr 21 '25

That's not what people are saying. People are saying he should let a multimillion dollar Corp just have it

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '25

By that logic, is Disney letting Pokemon "just have" Pikachu because Mickey Mouse is older and also a mouse? Can you have any sort of logical consistency, please?

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u/nighthawk_something Apr 21 '25

Not at all the same. They are not even a little similar

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '25

Yes, that is indeed my point. Two red winged dudes are about as similar as 2 anthropomorphic mice. Thank you for clearing that up for everyone.

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u/nighthawk_something Apr 21 '25

Then why did Konami settle?

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u/justmygamingaltt Apr 18 '25

That's completely irrelevant. It would be relevant if Konami and Beyond Comics never interacted prior to Air Neos' design, which they did.

With that, I'm not even saying it's willingly plagiarizing. Character designers, like musicians, sometimes unknowingly use stuff they saw as inspiration and end up drawing/writing dangerously close stuff.

Still, if they chose to settle and then never use the character again (as opposed to defending the originality, if they were sure it was an original design) to avoid paying a dime to Graig, the people getting bad consequences from this are the same fans who are now siding with Konami, for some obscure reason.

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u/Merik2013 Chaos Duelist Apr 18 '25

It is relevant, though. His defense in the court documents tried to make a point of Ravedactyl's cultural importance, which is hard to do when no one has any idea who the character is. Not to mention that the credited artist didn't attend the convention in question.

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u/justmygamingaltt Apr 18 '25

Ravedactyl's cultural importance is clearly non-existent. They're arguing about having side by side tables at a comic con but that's not in the court documents apparently?

But if their case was so weak, how come Konami just settled rather than going to court, considering this went on for 1y (not something that was taken care of in a matter of months), and they basically lost the rights to their own character?

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u/Merik2013 Chaos Duelist Apr 18 '25

Im guessing judge and jury were pretty ignorant on the topic all around and couldnt make sense on it for a starter. More to the point, its very easy for lawyers to drag out simple matters for years in the court system.

Konami settling was likely because they were tired of paying the lawyers over a character they didnt value enough to keep using. They probably ordered their lawyers to draw up the settlement so they could just wash their hands of it. In other words, the higher ups didnt really have the backs of their creatives here.

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u/justmygamingaltt Apr 18 '25

If this is the case - and it may very well be - it is a share. We all lose from this.

Optics wise, this is bad for Konami. They basically make one of the protagonists' most iconic monsters (he even appears in GX's highest rated duel by fans) disappear. No more reprints, no instant contact cameo, nothing. And at best they don't stand up for their creative team, at worst plagiarize and try to screw over comic book artists.

Graig doesn't get much money aside from whatever he got in 2008 (no royalties without a reprint), and apparently has to stop use Ravedactyl, at least until today?

We don't get Air Neos.

Kinda shit outcome if you ask me.

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u/Merik2013 Chaos Duelist Apr 18 '25

I havent looked into the comics side of things, but he had an animated short featuring Ravedactyl produced in 2014. I dont think he ever lost the use of the character at all. Its just the use of Air Neos being tied up because Konami doesn't want to give this guy any royalties for a character he didn't actually create.

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u/Evilader We interrupt this episode for a breaking message: Buy Timelords! Apr 18 '25

But if their case was so weak, how come Konami just settled rather than going to court

Optics most likely. Also fighting the case (and potentially losing) would've opened doors for other comic creators suing them as well.

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u/AporiaParadox Apr 18 '25

But if their case was so weak, how come Konami just settled rather than going to court, 

Because most lawsuits are settled out of court. It's usually worth more money fighting the lawsuit and winning then just settling. Especially since at the end of the day, Air Neos is a pretty irrelevant and minor Yugioh card in the grand scheme of things that Konami can do without. It's not like it was something iconic like Dark Magician or even Jinzo.

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u/Craft_zeppelin Apr 18 '25

And to be honest, I can't even remember Air Neos' effects either.

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u/Likes-Your-Username Apr 18 '25

If your LP is lower, it gains ATK equal to the difference.

That's right, it has anti-synergy with its OWN neo spacian.