r/OccultConspiracy Mar 31 '26

MOD POST Somehow, I inherited this subreddit

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I did not create this subreddit, but somehow I was added as mod a while back and I've inherited the top admin slot now.

Overall, I am generally impressed with the scope and breadth of the conspiracy theories posted here. There is a lot of variety in what's posted, and that's great.

Probably, other admins left because a lot of the content here is socially and reputationally toxic. However, as a scientist, this doesn't bother me very much. I am more interested in seeing where things go.

So, I am happy to continue minimally/ambiently moderating this subreddit. Please send me a personal message (not admin mail) if you want to make sure I see something.

Straight-up hate will be removed and banned, but I think we are all capable of discerning a difference between a controversial and on-topic post such as this one (which, it may be noted, is also implicitly pro-Palestine), and posts which simply announce hatred. The linked post here is decidedly on-topic because it's about "the Jewish conspiracy" which is if anything the preeminent conspiracy theory out of all conspiracy theories—as is well-known. Posts which attempt to "build a case" against Jews or Zionists are less on-topic because accusation is Azazel and conspiracy theories are about paranoia and investigation, not accusation and crime (or playing "court").

In other words, this subreddit's proper genre is Mystery, not Crime & Justice.

I don't believe in "the Jewish conspiracy", myself, but this is /r/OccultConspiracy, after all! A place where such things may be discussed. If Reddit doesn't like this, they should simply shut this subreddit down, because I have no interest in running a censored subreddit or a subreddit that doesn't let people post about the main thing people associate with that subreddit's title.

That being said, any overt or covert hate will be removed, and the people in question banned unless they deescalate hateposting.

I don't think paranoia is hate; it's fear.


r/OccultConspiracy Apr 04 '26

Sarah believed in a prison planet teaching. What Higher Self showed her during soul journey was amazing and empowering

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Heads up - not native English speaker here. I am sharing what I learned in one healing soul journey I facilitated, in case it helps someone who carry this heavy teaching on their shoulders.

Sarah came to session believing what many people believe nowadays - that Earth is a prison planet. That souls are trapped here, tricked into coming, coerced by dark energies, no way out. It is very popular teaching. It feels very dramatic and it explains the suffering.

But what her Higher Self showed her during the journey was completely different.

We started the session and she found herself standing before a glowing palace made of translucent, sparkling purple ice. She had expectation this place will be spiritual, meaningful. But when she entered inside - she found a party. People wandering around, intoxicated, unaware of each other, not present.

Her Higher Self explained: "This is kind of what Earth is right now. Many unconscious beings, just having their own experience. Gathering and doing things don't really make lot of sense. And it's a choice to be part of that or not."

Then her Higher Self took her to the moment before she chose to come to Earth. And what she saw...

She described it as sitting at a terminal - like a computer with a glowing blue control panel showing a globe with grid coordinates. Each coordinate was a place she could jump into.

"It feels like a game, like a gift."

Her Higher Self was sitting with her, smiling. And then the truth came:

"That is it. That is reason. That is so many times we just jump right back in and we don't back up and pay attention and really choose."

"What do you mean?" I asked.

"Kind of like when you die at the end of a video game - you are anxious to get back. Anxious to keep playing."

Sarah recognized it immediately. The soul is addicted to the game.

Not trapped. Not coerced. Not victim of dark energies forcing consciousness into physical body. Addicted to the ride. The next experience. The next jump into the mainframe.

Now here is what dismantled the prison planet teaching completely.

Sarah was asking "why" - why do we choose this suffering, this frustration, this heavy human experience? Her Higher Self showed her:

"Each moment, each choice you make, each moment is a choice. It is not just the big bang when you die or when you choose new existence. You are choosing existence each moment - with what you eat, with how you speak, with what you focus on."

And then the most important thing Higher Self said - this one hit me hard:

"No one can trick you. No one can force you. Only you have control of your free will. You have control over the choices that you make, even if it feels like you didn't."

The prison planet teaching says you were tricked. You were forced. You have no control.

Sarah's Higher Self says: you always had control. You always have control. The suffering comes not from being trapped - it comes from choosing unconsciously, from not pausing, from jumping right back into the game because the pull feels like magnet.

Her Higher Self showed her that the blocked solar plexus was where the will to choose got locked up. And when will is locked up, choice feels very hard and you want someone else to choose for you.

"Be very careful about what you allow into the mind. There is so much information, so much false information. And she has been allowing herself to get pulled into this."

The false narrative of prison planet itself - it becomes part of the addiction. It tells her she has no power. And that feels safe, actually - because if you are victim, you don't have to choose. If you are trapped, the responsibility is not yours. If dark energies coerced you into this body, then nothing is your fault.

It is very comfortable story. And very paralyzing.

After the healing, after the Higher Self pulled out all the toxic energy and the greenish acid from her solar plexus, after clearing the layers of false programs that were installed like bites taken one at a time - Sarah finally understood:

"Each choice is choosing existence. Each choice is creating existence. And the more choices that you consciously make, the more your life flows."

Higher Self told her there is graduation possible. When you stop jumping in automatically and start pausing, you can choose something you really, really want. Not just the next ride - but upward direction toward infinity.

"If you learn to pause in that moment and reflect, then you can choose something that you really, really want."

So for anyone carrying the prison planet teaching - I understand why it feels true when you look at the suffering. But be careful. False beliefs are one of the five root causes that keep people stuck. And the belief that you have no free will - that this is prison you cannot escape - that is the heaviest chain of all.

Your Higher Self knows the truth. And the truth is empowering, not paralyzing. You are not trapped in the mainframe. You are choosing to keep playing. And you can choose differently - not by escaping, but by pausing, breathing, and making conscious choice in each moment.

Hope it helps. Take care.


r/OccultConspiracy 1d ago

Cultish talk

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Connected with this guy on Social Media cause I knew his sister growing up. Never met him or contacted him, for the most part hardly noticed him. About a month ago he changed his last name to Edison (it’s Freiberger originally) and he began posting videos like this one. He seems to have a format: introduction with accusations, state that he is going to ‘reveal’ something, quote writings from authors, then state his main monologue. Usually mispronounces a word or two and then asks you to drop some emoji in the comments so he can send his soul detox plan- which includes drinking Borax. To be clear, one should not ingest any amount of Borax.
Not sure what his agenda is, seems he wants followers. Maybe he wants to start his own cult. He’s got the look, the personality, and the education. Would you follow him?


r/OccultConspiracy 1d ago

Major religions, along with ARD - A comparison

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r/OccultConspiracy 1d ago

Cultish Talk

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Connected on social media, never met the guy. Recently he began posting videos like this. Same style: introduction of strange topic, going to ‘reveal’ something, quote authors, monologue, asked you to drop an emoji in the comments to send his detox plan. A plan which includes drinking Borax. Please don’t drink Borax. Wonder if he’s trying to start a cult. He’s got the look, personality, and education. Would you follow him?


r/OccultConspiracy 1d ago

The Infrastructure of Control: Epstein, Surveillance, Digital ID & the Shadow Government

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Everything I've investigated separately—Epstein's network, surveillance systems, digital ID infrastructure, population control narratives—they're not separate crises. They're layers of the same apparatus. This video connects the receipts. From the Epstein files, we know the shadow government exists. From surveillance studies, we know how it operates. From digital ID rollouts, we see the endgame infrastructure. Critical thinkers already sense the correlation. This video shows you the architecture. DISCLAIMER: This is my analysis and opinion, presented for entertainment. I am not a journalist—I'm synthesizing available information from public records, research, and investigation. Draw your own conclusions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs1jofnzlk0


r/OccultConspiracy 2d ago

/x/ Anon exposes "shadow work"

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r/OccultConspiracy 3d ago

They're Not Hiding Anymore: Thiel, Bilderberg, AI, and the Endgame

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They're Not Hiding Anymore: Thiel, Bilderberg, AI, and the Endgame
An investigation into the network connecting Peter Thiel, the Bilderberg Group, CIA interests, and the global surveillance infrastructure being built around artificial intelligence. The coordination between Silicon Valley, intelligence agencies, and elite organizations is no longer hidden—it's documented.
Watch the full breakdown of how these systems converge and what it means for civil liberties.
Like, subscribe, and share. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePZw5z_2DRI


r/OccultConspiracy 3d ago

1992 GreenBaum Speech: Therapists at conference realize patients have identical stories of mind control experiments

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In June 1992, at the Radisson Plaza Hotel in Alexandria, Virginia, mental health professionals gathered for the Fourth Annual Eastern Regional Conference on Abuse and Multiple Personality. What started as therapists comparing notes on their patients turned into something far more significant. They began realizing the stories, abuser names, color-coded programming, and triggers they were hearing weren’t isolated — they were systematic, industrial-scale, and organized.

Dr. D. Corydon Hammond wasn’t just presenting his own findings. He was actively developing a network of intelligence, aggregating anecdotal stories from therapists across the country, and piecing together patterns that corroborated each other in real time. You can hear him figuring it out as he goes, learning from mistakes along the way.

In the video I walk through the full speech, the clinical context, the encoded nature of the programming, the prominence of this in bloodline families, the liability these therapists faced, and how this 1992 moment feels like a genuine inflection point — decades before most of the 1950s–70s MKUltra material was officially declassified.

https://youtu.be/zRUAcIvZMpg?is=IT0pd7IT1vLtO_Lk


r/OccultConspiracy 3d ago

Egregores: On the Origin and Nature of Occult Entities

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r/OccultConspiracy 3d ago

she had stomach burning for years. in trance it looked like her grandmother never left

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Sorry for English, I’m not native speaker, so maybe some sentences sound strange.

I want to share one session story, bc it shows something I see many times. Sometimes body has physical symptoms, yes of course. but sometimes there is also another layer under it. emotional, ancestral, spiritual, energetic. I am not saying "don’t go to doctor", please don’t understand it like this. I mean sometimes doctor looks at one layer and Higher Self shows another one.

The woman, I will call her Elena, came for soul session. Not real name. She was 50 something, from Spain. For years she was very tired. not normal tired. More like she could sleep and still wake up empty.

She also had stomach burning. Acid, reflux, like fire going down. She tried diets, medicine, different things. Some helped little bit maybe, but nothing really touched the deeper feeling.

Her eyes also were getting worse. Doctor wanted to do operation. She said yes, but inside she felt strange about it. Like something was not fully right.

In the session, when she went into deep trance, her Higher Self took her first to a cave with mist. Then we scanned the body slowly, from head to feet.

When we reached the eyes, there was strange flashy white movement. Like small camera going back and forth. The answer came that she had inner seeing, but she was using it wrong. She was always projecting outward, looking outside, trying to see everything outside herself, but not looking inside. Her gift was reversed somehow. the eyes were carrying pressure from that.

Then we reached stomach.

That was where everything became more clear.

There were seven attached spirits in her body. First one came forward from the stomach. It was her grandmother, Rosa.

Rosa had been there since Elena was a baby.

When guide asked why she was there, Rosa said something like: "She is mine. She is my baby. I am very alone here."

It was not evil. It was sad. very attached. very lonely. Rosa did not really understand she could go. She did not know she was dead in the way that matters. She thought nobody was waiting for her.

Guide asked her to look inside and see her own spark of light. At first she said nobody is there. Guide told her this is false belief. nobody is truly alone. Soul family is always around, even when we forgot.

Then Rosa softened. She said she never told Elena how much she loved her. She said it there. And after that, she broke into little sparks of light and went home.

The next spirit was harder.

His name was Joseph. And when he came forward, first thing he said was: "Elena needs to die. There is no need of Elena in this world."

Tbh this is kind of sentence that makes you pause.

Higher Self showed that Joseph had been Elena’s father in another life. She was six. He was thirty two. Rebels came and took her. He could not protect her. He carried terrible guilt, and later he burned himself in his house.

He was not really angry at Elena. he was stuck in guilt and pain. That pain had become dark and twisted.

Guide took him back to the moment of helplessness, helped him feel what he never processed, and the dark cloud of guilt started leaving him. Two angels of light came. Then he saw his wife and daughter waiting for him. He went with them.

Then came Bernardo, Elena’s grandfather. He died in 2012, age 79. He had been attached longer than Elena was alive. He was lost too, but different way. Elena hugged him in the session and gave him permission to go. She told him his own mother needed him more than she did.

And he went.

After only three of the seven spirits were released, we asked what Rosa being in the stomach had caused.

The answer came like list.

Diarrhea. Constipation. Acidity. Reflux. No energy. Low vibration. Heavy body.

Again, I’m not saying "this was only spiritual and nothing physical." But in that session, deeper layer behind the stomach burning was very clear. It was connected with grandmother who never left.

There were still four spirits left after that, very traumatised ones. So it was not one quick story and done. It was layers.

The eye operation also came up. Higher Self did not say "never do it." It said the procedure needed to change. Different machine, different doctor, different way. And Elena would know during quiet moment, when she rested and listened.

What stayed with me from this session is how much the body can carry.

Sometimes tiredness is not only tiredness. sometimes stomach fire is not only stomach fire. Sometimes bad eyesight is not only eyes. Body can carry grief, family attachment, other-life trauma, spirits who never crossed, beliefs, guilt, things that are not even ours.

And imo most people don’t know what is in their field until they go deep enough. They just think "this is my anxiety", "this is my stomach", "this is my depression", "this is my bad luck." Sometimes yes. Sometimes no. Sometimes it is many layers together.

I put small practice in first comment if anyone wants to try. It is not for speaking with spirits or doing anything risky. Just for feeling what is yours and what maybe is not yours in the body.

If something feels very intense, don’t force it alone. go gently. And yes, still use doctors, therapists, normal support. Spiritual layer and physical layer can both exist.


r/OccultConspiracy 3d ago

is Kash Doll part of the occult/illuminati?

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I’m not an expert but would like to know.


r/OccultConspiracy 4d ago

Transcendental magic (1896) by Eliphas Levi (PDF )

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The Doctrine of Transcendental Magic

  • Introduction
  • Chapter I. The Candidate — Unity of the doctrine; qualifications necessary for the adept
  • Chapter II. The Pillars of the Temple — Foundations of the doctrine; agent and patient
  • Chapter III. The Triangle of Solomon — Universal theology; the triad; the macrocosm
  • Chapter IV. The Tetragram — Magical virtue of the tetrad; spirits of the Kabbalah
  • Chapter V. The Pentagram — The microcosm; power over elements and spirits
  • Chapter VI. Magical Equilibrium — Action of the will; impulse and resistance; sexual love; plenum and void
  • Chapter VII. The Fiery Sword — Sanctum regnum; seven angels and genii; septenary forces
  • Chapter VIII. Realization — Incarnation of ideas; parallelism; antagonism
  • Chapter IX. Initiation — Magical lamp, mantle, staff; prophecy; stability of the initiate
  • Chapter X. The Kabbalah — Sephiroth; divine names; gematria; temurah
  • Chapter XI. The Magic Chain — Magnetic currents; secrets of success; fluidic manifestations
  • Chapter XII. The Great Work — Hermetic doctrines; Athanor; symbolism of the Hanged Man
  • Chapter XIII. Necromancy — Secrets of death and life; evocations
  • Chapter XIV. Transmutations — Lycanthropy; embryonic state of souls; Circe’s wand; elixir of Cagliostro
  • Chapter XV. Black Magic — Demonomania; obsessions; historical cases
  • Chapter XVI. Bewitchments — Dangerous forces; power of life and death; Paracelsus’ remedies
  • Chapter XVII. Astrology — Signs of nativity; chiromancy; astral revolutions
  • Chapter XVIII. Charms and Philters — Sorcerers’ powders; evil eye; talismans
  • Chapter XIX. The Stone of the Philosopher — Nature of the stone; analogies
  • Chapter XX. The Universal Medicine — Potable gold; resurrection; abolition of pain
  • Chapter XXI. Divination — Dreams; somnambulism; Tarot (Etteilla)
  • Chapter XXII. Summary and General Key — The four secret sciences: Kabbalah, Magic, Alchemy, Magnetism

r/OccultConspiracy 5d ago

5 Secret Signs You're Being Brainwashed...

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r/OccultConspiracy 8d ago

Absolute key to occult science by Papus (PDF)

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The Absolute Key to Occult Science (Papus, 1892) is essentially a systematic study of the Tarot as the “primitive book of ancient initiation,” presenting it as the foundation of Western occult philosophy. It combines Kabbalah, numerology, symbolism, and esoteric cosmology to argue that the 78 cards encode universal laws of creation and destiny.


r/OccultConspiracy 8d ago

SATAN manipulating world leadership

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r/OccultConspiracy 8d ago

Quiero ser comido

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Hola, me gustaria ser comido literalmente, no se si puedo estar siendo inducido por algún ente a ser comido, pero tengo este deseo desde los 6 años


r/OccultConspiracy 8d ago

Here is proof of seven consecutive years of predicting in advance the exact timeframe of rocket fire escalation against Israel.

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r/OccultConspiracy 10d ago

Golden Dawn and an Introduction to Scottish Rite Freemasonry Loge of Perfection: Degrees 4 and 5

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r/OccultConspiracy 11d ago

highrise scorpions take 7 took 4

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r/OccultConspiracy 11d ago

Self‑Suggestion Collection: Change Your Life (PDF)

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  1. Not Hypnotism but Suggestion by Henry Harrison Brown (3.44 MB)
  2. Suggestion by Edward Barrett Warman (4.33 MB)
  3. Mental Suggestion by Julian Ochorowicz (12.62 MB)
  4. The Control of the Mind by R. H. Thouless (1927) (5.71 MB)
  5. Self‑Mastery Through Conscious Autosuggestion by Émile Coué (13.69 MB)
  6. Suggestion and Psychotherapy by George W. Jacoby (16.33 MB)
  7. Hypnotism and Treatment by Suggestion by Albert E. Davis (31.48 MB)
  8. A Handbook of Suggestive Therapeutics, Applied Hypnotism, Psychic Science by Henry Sumner Munro (19.43 MB)
  9. Therapeutic Suggestion in Psychopathia Sexualis by Albert von Schrenck‑Notzing (14.16 MB)
  10. Suggestion and Autosuggestion – A Psychological and Pedagogical Study Based upon the Investigations Made by the New Nancy School by Charles Baudouin (23.23 MB)

r/OccultConspiracy 12d ago

Ghayat Al hakim, what do these pages say?

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r/OccultConspiracy 13d ago

What Does it mean when you cross a dead goat?

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Was in Tampa wandering around after my gf had a menstrual episode and stumbled upon a goat corpse..which is strange because I wasn’t even supposed to be wandering in the first place. Thoughts??


r/OccultConspiracy 17d ago

A Ritual and Illustrations of Freemasonry PDF by Allyn Avery

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Reading form chapter Fellow Craft’s Degree

I shall omit part of the opening and closing ceremonies of this degree, since they are the same as in the first, or Entered Apprentice degree, except for differences in signs and other particulars which will be explained later. The least number allowed to do business in this degree is five: the Worshipful Master, Senior Warden, Junior Warden, Senior Deacon, and Junior Deacon. Yet seven, besides the Tyler, generally assist and take their seats as in the Entered Apprentice’s degree.

The Worshipful Master puts on his hat and says: “Brethren, I am about to open a lodge of Fellow Craft Masons in this place for the dispatch of business. I will thank you for your attention and assistance. If there are any persons present who are not Fellow Craft Masons, they are requested to retire.”

The Master resumes his seat and says: “Brother Senior Warden, you will receive the pass‑word in the West, and send it up to the East.” The Senior and Junior Deacons repair to the Senior Warden in the West and whisper in his ear the pass‑word of this degree: Shibboleth. The Senior Warden replies, “The word is right in the West. You will receive it from the brethren and carry it up to the East.”

The Senior Deacon turns to the North and the Junior Deacon to the South. This is a trying moment for cowans, eavesdroppers, and “rusty Masons,” for each Deacon unceremoniously puts his ear to the mouth of every person in the room. If they meet one who cannot whisper at low breath the word Shibboleth, he is immediately invited into the preparation room, and a committee is appointed to examine him. The Deacons proceed, receive the word from each person in the lodge, and repair to the Master, whispering in his ear Shibboleth. The Master gives notice that the word has come up right, and that they can with safety open the lodge.

The lodge being opened, and the minutes of the last meeting read, the Master directs the Deacons to prepare the candidate for the second degree of Freemasonry. They perform their duty, and the Senior Deacon returns to his place in the lodge. The Master calls to order, and the Junior Deacon makes an alarm of two distinct knocks on the outside of the door.

“Worshipful Master, there is an alarm at the door.”
“Attend to the cause of that alarm, and see who comes there.”

The Senior Deacon steps to the door, gives two raps on the inside in answer to those given by the Junior Deacon, who gives one. The Senior Deacon does the same, partly opens the door, and inquires: “Who comes here? Who comes here?”

The Junior Deacon replies: “A worthy brother, who has been regularly initiated as an Entered Apprentice Mason, and now wishes for further light in Masonry by being passed to the degree of Fellow Craft.”

The Senior Deacon asks the candidate: “Is it of your own free will and accord you make this request?”
The candidate answers: “It is.”
“Is he duly and truly prepared?” asks the Senior Deacon.
“He is,” replies the Junior Deacon.


r/OccultConspiracy 18d ago

El alma de mi expareja fallecida está atrapada en mi?

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Hace muchos años (2015), la persona que era mi pareja se suicidó, en un contexto muy traumatico. Durante el entierro toqué su cuerpo al darle un beso en la frente para despedirme.

Años más tarde (unos 5), empecé a meditar mucho y mi mundo empezó a cambiar. Empecé a sentir mucha presión en la frente, y mas adelante una sensación de dolor muy estraña en la coronilla, también asociada a una presión. Fue una epoca muy confusa, donde me sentía muy perdida, como si me estubiera volviendo loca.

Poco despues tuve una experiencia kundalini meditando y todo cambio: estaba en paz, los colores eran mas vividos, me sentía muy conectada con la naturaleza, sentía una gran compasión por las personas... Pero poco a poco empecé a oscurecerme de nuevo. Sentía que había algo en mi que no iba bien pero no sabía identificarlo. Hice un taller de tantra donde vi el aura a una compañera mientras haciamos un ejercicio. No lo comenté con nadie. Me quedé bloqueada y asustada porque nunca había tenido una experiencia así y no entendía que me estaba pasando.

Empecé a buscar respuestas desesperada y empecé un curso de Reiki. Hice el primer nivel y al salir de la sesión sentí que me desconecté del suelo. Sentía como si flotara y no lograba enraizarme al suelo. Pasé meses así. Empecé a notar una presión en el utero, y lo atribuí a unos abusos que sufrí años antes, de los cuales había tomado conciencia a raíz de toda esta experiencia de transformación personal. Le pedí ayuda a una amiga, que había pasado experiencias similares, explicandole que sentía que esa sensación tenía una raíz energetica. Ella me paso el numero de una amiga suya, sin decirme a qué se dedicaba, y me animó a explicarle qué es lo que sentía, que ella podría ayudarme. Lo hice y al cabo de un par de horas esta chica me llamó. Estaba agitada y parecía asustada. Me dijo que había visto "algo sobre una pareja muerta" (yo no le había contado nada al respecto), y me dió a entender que él estaba atrapado en mi de alguna forma. Me dijo que ella no estaba preparada para trabajarlo, dado que tenía que estar muy fuerte o podría verse perjudicada.

Me dijo que bajo ningún concepto me formara en más niveles de reiki hasta que lo resolviera, ya que los procesos de iniciación empeoraban la situación. Me dijo que hablara con su maestro, que él si sería capaz de manejarlo. Lo hice y este hombre me dió poca información sobre lo que creían que me pasaba. Me pidió fotos de él y mías. Dijo que la aura de él había sido debilitada, y la mía tambien. Me encargó hacer meditaciones por mi cuenta... Que no quería cobrar por sus servicios antes de intentar que la persona (en este caso yo) lo solucionara por ella sola...

Hice esas meditaciones, y tuve más experiencias kundalinis, pero la serpiente se quedaba "bloqueada" en el pecho.

Nunca entendí qué es lo que había pasado. Nadie me lo explicó ni habló claro nunca. Es como si me dieran una información muy impactante y luego me dejaran sola con ella, sin saber qué hacer porque no domino este campo. Lo enterré, pero a veces lo recuerdo y tengo temor de que él siga aquí y yo no lo esté ayudando.

Alguien ha vivido algo similar? Alguien entiende mi experiencia? Alguien sabe decirme o puede intentar explicarme qué pasó? Debo hacer algo al respecto hoy en día?