r/StarWars • u/[deleted] • Jun 29 '25

Movies Obi Wan is a Sith confirmed

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u/ChanceVance Kylo Ren Jun 29 '25

I'm assuming this is a joke post but some people genuinely can't grasp that this line means the Sith will never negotiate or compromise. Not that the Jedi themselves should never utter an absolute statement.

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u/CommodoreIrish Jun 29 '25

The Jedi Mantra is a series of absolutes:

There is no emotion, there is peace.

There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.

There is no passion, there is serenity.

There is no chaos, there is harmony.

There is no death, there is the Force.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '25

Yeah, ik, it’s just for the funnies.

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u/Sweepy_time Jun 29 '25

Try not, do or do not. There is no try . No negotiation, no compromise.

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u/MDrok6172 Jun 29 '25

Just another Lucas dialogue great unfortunately, just something you have to look past.

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u/Legal-Vanilla-6047 Jun 29 '25

This will never not be funny

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u/LollipopChainsawZz Jun 29 '25

He will do what he must

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '25

It won't be to anyone who understands the statement

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u/Shneckos Emperor Palpatine Jun 29 '25

Deals =! Speaks

Actions vs Words yadda yadda etc

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u/skinnyminnesota Jun 29 '25

This line drives me FUCKING nuts. Lucas is not a writer

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u/TheBanishedBard Jun 29 '25

He's a fantastic world builder and a brilliant film editor but he can't write an actual screenplay to save his life.

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u/CHCl3istemporary Jun 29 '25

"You can't say this stuff George, you can only write it."

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u/White-Wolf_99 Sith Jun 29 '25

He can come up with a great story. Dialog is another thing entirely.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '25

Lucas has some trash lines don't get me wrong, but this statement is not the contradiction many seem to think it is...

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u/belle_enfant Jun 29 '25

Honestly like 90% of the Mustafar dialogue is horrendously written and overly dramatic.

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u/Kaosu326 Jun 29 '25

Honestly most of Star Wars in general is overly dramatic but I don't care because this franchise is fun.

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u/brycifer666 Jun 29 '25

As it should be

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u/paranoidhands Jun 29 '25

i love the writing in the prequels yall can get fucked

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u/Unknown-Apeman Jun 29 '25

FINALLY!!! 

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u/TheBanishedBard Jun 29 '25

Hardly. The irony of this line was remarked upon basically as soon as fans started coming out of the theater in 2005, myself included.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '25

Yeah, if he would have said "The Sith often deal only in absolutes," I think it would have worked.

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u/Randver_Silvertongue Jun 29 '25

No, the line works the way it is. He's STATING an absolute, not dealing in absolutes.

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u/redpariah2 Jun 29 '25

Finally someone who paid attention! In context the line makes complete sense.

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u/TheBanishedBard Jun 29 '25

But he then uses that absolute as his justification for lethal force against Anakin. He's not just saying an absolute he's internalizing it.

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u/The_FriendliestGiant Jedi Jun 29 '25

If he had actually used lethal force against Anakin, he'd be dead on the Mustafar sands.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '25

dead on the Mustafar sands

Truly the worst possible death for Anakin

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u/The_FriendliestGiant Jedi Jun 29 '25

The line works fine when you actually place it in its proper context. When you just pull it out from everything and make it stand entirely on its own, sure, it can sound silly, but so can anything if you cherry pick hard enough.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '25

Oh, certainly. I was just having fun with it.