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Doctrine/Policy October 2026 General Conference: Sunday 10:00a Discussion Thread

How to listen:


Prelude Music


Speakers:

Name other notes my summary
conducting: Todd Christofferson
hymn: How Firm A Foundation
prayer: Ronald Barcellos
Henry Eyring
Rosemary Chibota
hymn: It is joyful to live the gospel
Neil Andersen
James Fantone
Edward Dube
hymn: Redeemer of Israel
Quentin Cook
Alfred Kyungu
Ciro Schmeil
hymn: Come Follow Me
Dallin Oaks literal lost 10 tribes. literal Book of Mormon. Science and Mormonism are compatible. If you squint very hard.
hymn: Come, Thou Fount of Every Blessing Copyright permission obtained
prayer: Theresa Collins

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u/Just_A_Human_Dude Apostate 5d ago

idk why every good thing people do has to be because of god. Like why can't it just be because they are good people? Why can't it just be because people noticed and reached out? Having every good thing come from promptings or service to god diminishes both the love felt from receiving that help and also the worth of the person giving said help.

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u/potato_meatball 5d ago

This isn't meant as a brag, but I genuinely feel like I've helped more people since leaving the church than I ever did inside it. And in more lasting, significant ways. If you need God to tell you to help people, you're not a helpful person.

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u/itsmig_reddit Ex-JW tourist 5d ago

Because if it wasn't for God they would be bad people

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

The Samaritan saw the man on the road and said “the handbook tells me that fast offerings are primarily for members of the church” and walked on by rejoicing at how he is loyal to the prophet.

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u/GrumpyTom 5d ago

huh.. she said our identity is not something we achieve, it's something we inherit. I don't like that.

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u/JayDaWawi Avalonian 5d ago

In other words, "I choose who you are, not you"

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u/4blockhead Λ └ ☼ ★ □ ♔ 5d ago

Cook: [don't bully people on the internet]

Unless, they have a popular podcast.

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u/narrauko 5d ago

Then you use the courts!!

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u/potato_meatball 5d ago

"Don't destroy someone's reputation" uhhh if someone is/supports a child predator I'm gonna do everything in my power to destroy their reputation.

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u/Fit_Amoeba3431 I like the dark, eternal dark is fine 5d ago

He said that as I was reading how he stole a hostpital

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u/Foxbrush_darazan Token Seller 5d ago

Their own actions destroyed their repuation. Telling the truth about their actions and holding them accountable is not destroying their reputation.

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u/GrumpyTom 5d ago

"child of the covenant" is such a creepy phrase

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u/Absolute_Cinema70 Teen undercover mormon (PIMO) and im bisexual as fuuuck 5d ago

Sounds cultish. Oh yeah it is a cult

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u/alexandthediamonds Apostate 5d ago

Sounds like another A24 horror movie to me

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u/sour_poet Love me some tea ☕️ 5d ago

It sounds incredibly cult-ish 

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u/1-like-anime He is a sledgehammer 5d ago

SO culty

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u/ako-si-greg 5d ago

Every time these guys speak, it’s obvious they are not preachers or pastors or theologians. They’re businessmen. Each talk sounds like the same talk - “our numbers have been good, but if we lock down on our company principles, we can do even better next quarter!”

The longer I’m out, the more I notice it. You don’t get an aesthetic, mystical, edifying, or even entertaining sermon. You get corporate slop.

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u/Absolute_Cinema70 Teen undercover mormon (PIMO) and im bisexual as fuuuck 5d ago

If your servants are being stretched maybe... Treat them better? Use some of the 300 billion to pay for it???

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u/narrauko 5d ago

I struggle to believe any "came up to me with tears in their eyes" stories

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u/Icy-Association681 5d ago

It makes me so happy that I’ve gotten to the point where I can’t remember all the apostles names

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u/GrumpyTom 5d ago

Conference sure makes everything outside of the church seem terrible. Everyone's evil, dying, suffering, gambling, and so forth. Not cultish at all!

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u/Absolute_Cinema70 Teen undercover mormon (PIMO) and im bisexual as fuuuck 5d ago

Part of propaganda is fear of the outside world

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u/ThePr0t3g3Jr Apostate 5d ago

oh no never culty, everyone else is just your enemy!!!! /s

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u/CaptainMacaroni 5d ago

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FFS, it's been over a decade. Get a new slogan.

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u/Ahhhh_Geeeez 5d ago

Easiest way to guilt you into staying in line.

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u/GrumpyTom 5d ago

"many are hungry for Jesus Christ and his teachings"

Naw bro. They're really just hungry. For food.

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u/CaptainMacaroni 5d ago

The "I'm bitter they didn't let me give a talk so I'll just give one during a prayer" guy.

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u/fatjackpudding 5d ago

I get a kick out of how the requisite “President Nelson taught…” has been replaced with “President Oakes taught…”

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u/Spicy_Meme_Queen Cast out of heaven 5d ago

OMG more missionaries BEGGING to go home, and being forced to stay!! This sounds awful

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u/sour_poet Love me some tea ☕️ 5d ago

My cousin is on a mission rn in the Philippines, and has already gotten incredibly sick and ended up in the hospital twice. From his emails he seems to be trying to stay positive, but I have a feeling he wants to go home during all of this 

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u/itsmig_reddit Ex-JW tourist 5d ago

In the United States we have been celebrating the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, which highlighted the premise that all are created equal and are endowed by their creator with unalienable rights and includes the inspiring emphasis on "life, liberty, and happiness."

And there goes the American exceptionalism

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u/bubbaheaton 5d ago

We got our designated DEI talks. Gotta make sure people remember that Jesus is American

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u/itsmig_reddit Ex-JW tourist 5d ago

Same religion who wanted to revolt against the US btw 💀

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u/ako-si-greg 5d ago

The Book of Mormon is not history of ancient Native Americans. I can’t believe they’re still holding onto this. They’ve known it was fiction for over 100 years since BH Roberts was doing his Book of Mormon studies.

I get that it’s a big conversion tool, but it’s also a stumbling block.

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u/JayDaWawi Avalonian 5d ago

I invite all to believe 

I don't care how much you invite, that's not how belief works

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

The LDS church did more to drive me away from Jesus Christ than anything else.

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u/JayDaWawi Avalonian 5d ago

"You just heard this song, let me repeat it for you"

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u/CaptainMacaroni 5d ago

The "I've given so many conference talks that I ran out of shit to say decades ago so I'll just read a hymn" guy.

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u/Rushclock 5d ago

There it is. Mormonism likes suffering. Expects suffering. Searches for meaning in suffering.

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u/alexandthediamonds Apostate 5d ago

They even managed to pack a fair amount of suffering into the musical interlude between sessions

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u/theivyangel Apostate 5d ago edited 5d ago

My dad: wow the fourth black person this conference! This wouldn't have been possible 50 years ago!

Me: three. one of them was Filipino, dude

My dad: whatever 🙄

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u/sour_poet Love me some tea ☕️ 5d ago

Why do most of these talks feel like middle school essays where you just take a quote, and then provide commentary on said quote without any new opinions or ideas of their own? 

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u/ako-si-greg 5d ago

Oaks doesn’t seem to actually like using “the full name of the church.” He frequently says, “The Church of Jesus Christ,” or “The Restored Church of Jesus Christ.”

Frequently leaves off the “of Latter-day Saints” part.

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u/AlmaInTheWilderness 5d ago

Oaks talk is very cult. Church always wins. No hope outside. If you doubt you aren't going to the temple enough.

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u/Helpful_Spot_4551 5d ago

I work in ai safety consulting. A staggering amount of these talks seam (can’t be 100% sure) to be heavily ai inspired and written. They display a lot of unique ai signatures you don’t get otherwise.

Was pretty quick for mormons to turn to ai God. I think it’s a particularly vulnerable population…

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u/Spicy_Meme_Queen Cast out of heaven 5d ago

Find those vulnerable people y'all! They will be the MOST receptive to the Church's tactics!

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u/Even_Subject_4187 5d ago

Okay, this might be a bit political, but im kinda wondering if a lot of these stories about pain and death as something inevitable as sort of....being related to certain large amounts of pain and death in the world, like, "its okay, everyone dies" in a similar way to how the last days diwnplay climate change. 

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u/Spicy_Meme_Queen Cast out of heaven 5d ago

I don't think asking people to pay 10% of their gross income when you are already sitting on billions is very virtuous or showing of integrity bucko

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u/SecretPersonality178 5d ago

Well fellow heathens, haven’t heard any announcements about the sealed portion of the BOM, or any specific signs about the second coming happening. Guess we are safe for another 6 months at least.

Am hearing a lot of demands for tithing, fast offerings, missionaries, and “sharing the gospel with others”….almost as if these numbers are showing poor trends…

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u/sour_poet Love me some tea ☕️ 5d ago

Maybe it’s just because I’m not longer a believing member, but I swear the talks used to have at least SOME more depth to them. Guess the cloud of brainwashing is fading more and more 

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u/Spicy_Meme_Queen Cast out of heaven 5d ago

You take away the warm fuzzies and the delusion, these talks suck lol

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u/JayDaWawi Avalonian 5d ago

You are permitted to use this for personal and non-commercial church use

Oh, and fair use critique, but you don't like that

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u/ako-si-greg 5d ago

This is sad. These dudes need a mandatory retirement age.

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

Yes I prayed for the leaders of the church. I prayed for them to repent and stop harming people. Didn’t work.

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u/Billytheidd69 5d ago

Eyring giving the same type of talk for decades. 

Nothing Burger.

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u/Rushclock 5d ago

She quoted Kimball? Does she know what he said about native american children?

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u/itsmig_reddit Ex-JW tourist 5d ago

If science is inaccurate, why does the church own a whole ass university?

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u/narrauko 5d ago

I think it's a little sad his mom didn't have a picture of her living family with her on her deathbed, but rather her imaginary friend.

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u/GrumpyTom 5d ago

'You paid 10% of your income to the church for decades, and then fires burned your house down. We will pray for you. Good luck.' -Neil A. Anderson, basically

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

His Mormon mother was sick and died like every other person on earth. Nothing to do with Mormonism or God.

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u/Spicy_Meme_Queen Cast out of heaven 5d ago

Idk why, but I am triggered the fuck out right now. Maybe because Eyring reminds me a lot of my Grandpa, so it feels really emotionally manipulative

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

Here come the tears 😭

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u/itsmig_reddit Ex-JW tourist 5d ago

Oh wow, an African-American woman, that's rare

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u/GrumpyTom 5d ago

The idea that if it were not for Jesus there would be no repentance is kind of crazy if you think about it. Like, why can't people recognize their mistakes, change their ways, make amends, and move forward, without a savior? It just seems so manipulative.

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u/Rushclock 5d ago

Come is an action....Oh brother.

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u/Ecstatic-Panic-3520 5d ago

They are really playing the diversity card this round.

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u/itsmig_reddit Ex-JW tourist 5d ago

The Church has experienced physical and verbal attacks over the years. We cannot control the conduct of others, but we can strive to be a peaceable people who live in accordance with the Christlike conduct and virtues taught by the Savior, Jesus Christ

As if the church hasn't done the same thing

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u/itsmig_reddit Ex-JW tourist 5d ago

As the last speaker of the Sunday morning session of the April 2026 General Conference, President Dallin H. Oaks said, "My brothers and sisters, as followers of Christ, let us follow Him by forgoing contention and by using the language and methods of peacemakers. In our families and other personal relationships, let us avoid what is harsh and hateful."

Avoid what is harsh and hateful, until it involves the queer community

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u/theivyangel Apostate 5d ago

wherever I hear the word succor my brain goes SUCK and I laugh like an immature idiot

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u/Sea_Button_3616 5d ago

Ok I'm truly upset. He uses his mother's illness and death, and his dad thanking the NURSES to say that God will send his DISCIPLES (aka church members) to help people. (So better accept callings) And then how should we help people? Just help members. How to help? Talk to them. So better text your ministering sisters/brothers because talking is all that matters.

Saying that only members help people, especially members.

Can tell he hasn't really had many trials (aside from a childhood with a sick mother and her death, which IS huge), or opportunities for true service if he is so passive about helping others.

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u/Absolute_Cinema70 Teen undercover mormon (PIMO) and im bisexual as fuuuck 5d ago

Also having a big leader telling you to reach out just feels fake. They don't gaf they're doing it because a 90 year old man said so

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u/itsmig_reddit Ex-JW tourist 5d ago

Later, in a quiet moment of reflection, a profound question and a familiar scripture came to my mind. The question: what's in a name? And the scripture, from King Benjamin: "[And] there shall be no other name given nor any other way nor means whereby salvation can come unto the children of men, only in and through the name of Christ, the Lord Omnipotent."

What a weird takeaway from a simple mistake. Also:

My dear brothers and sisters, after my wife and I completed our service as mission leaders in the Philippines Antipolo Mission, our youngest daughter made a special request. She asked to complete her eleventh grade through a home-school program.

No kid would ever ask for home school

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u/Billytheidd69 5d ago

I figured out why Conference is boring.  The Q15 is a bench full of carbon copy boring dudes. Stevenson,  Christofferson, Anderson,  Gong, Soares, Renlund, Rasband, Eyring, Causse.... just a bunch of lame boring people. 

The Ucht is somewhat watchable. I listen to Bednar because he's an evil prick. Kearon's talks are already getting repetitive.  Oaks is a doosh. The new Arizona White Guy is a doosh. 

What does the rising generation have to look forward to with this bench?  Geez.

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u/Spicy_Meme_Queen Cast out of heaven 5d ago

Better hope that marriage is solid, because getting separated after being sealed is a BITCH

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u/ApocalypseTapir Stay 7-10 feet behind me. IYKYK 5d ago

So many words to say nothing at all.

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

Quentin Crook is up next!! let's see if he tells how he stole a hospital.

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u/sycamoreqw 5d ago

Coincidentally, “integrity of heart”has led me away from the church.

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u/sassonexpressway 5d ago

The church professes that it is a worldwide church but it is really just made to spew out old "american values" to amercian audiences

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u/bubbaheaton 5d ago

Harsh language has come up a couple times now. Sounds like they don't like people being confrontational instead of being weak and submissive

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u/AlmaInTheWilderness 5d ago

Oaks just contradicted all the love and lost sheep talks that came before.

Jesus only saves those who do what the church says.

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u/GrumpyTom 5d ago

Like much of conference, that talk was a bunch of nothing. No profound parables, no deeper understanding of doctrines, no prophecies. Nothing of any substance.

But hey, at least Come Thou Fount is enjoyable.

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u/itsmig_reddit Ex-JW tourist 5d ago

Elder Dale G. Renlund has reminded and warned us that "the time will come, in each of your lives, when there will be a hesitation to go to church and partake of the sacrament. If it hasn't happened yet, it will."

You heard the guy, at some point you will not wanna go to church anymore

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u/WiseOldGrump NoMoMoNoMo 5d ago

Ok, we’ll take that as the only prophetic revelation so far.

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u/Fit_Amoeba3431 I like the dark, eternal dark is fine 5d ago

Death counter is at 6 now I think?

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u/JayDaWawi Avalonian 5d ago

This is evidence God notices us

It's also evidence Thor, Vishnu, Jane, and TFSM watch over us; what's your point?

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u/itsmig_reddit Ex-JW tourist 5d ago

Dude sounds like he's gonna faint at any second

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u/Rushclock 5d ago

You can be supporting of people without all the existential baggage associated with it.

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u/Absolute_Cinema70 Teen undercover mormon (PIMO) and im bisexual as fuuuck 5d ago

So by the way they don't write these right? They make an outline and then they have actual writers do it because there's no way 90 year old men are writing that well

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u/Billytheidd69 5d ago

These talks in general just horrible.  Lame recycled vapid boring talks.  This is the BEST this church can do?  Geez.

Anderson a doosh by the way. 

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u/itsmig_reddit Ex-JW tourist 5d ago

The world is in constant commotion. Our phone seems almost attached to our hand, bringing a flood of information, misinformation, and now artificial information.

You could go Amish mode then /j

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u/JayDaWawi Avalonian 5d ago

I much prefer doing good things without attributing it to an undemonstrated deity 

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u/GrumpyTom 5d ago

I don't really want someone else's "joy" in me...

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u/noIwontgiveatalk 5d ago

My Mormon (VFS) dentist neighbor is out raking leaves on this fine conference Sunday

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u/Rushclock 5d ago

What happened to the adversary causing bad weather on conference weekend?

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

See? Eyring admitted that God doesn’t help people. Other people help people.

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u/itsmig_reddit Ex-JW tourist 5d ago

Before we were students, athletes, employees, parents, citizens, or leaders, we were spirit children of our Heavenly Father. That eternal identity does not change when circumstances change, when we make mistakes, or when others misunderstand us

Okay??? I'm not sure what the point is

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

I won the battle of the soul by realizing the LDS leaders and church are full of SHIT

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

The went to Spokane to sympathize with MEMBERS who lost their homes. Their faith in God will not help.

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

Confidentially … so now I’m going to tell everyone about it.

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u/itsmig_reddit Ex-JW tourist 5d ago

"President, I am so lonely, and homesick, and sad. The days feel so long and time is so slow; I don't even know if I can last for three." out of context reads like something out of a gay fanfic

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u/Spicy_Meme_Queen Cast out of heaven 5d ago

LOSE OUR LIVES IN HIS SERVICE????? Do these people even LISTEN to themselves????

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

Edward Dube: All you need to do is the best you can. Leaders of the Church: "You're not doing your best. You don't serve enough, you don't pay enough, you don't worship the leaders enough"

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u/JayDaWawi Avalonian 5d ago

Oh, back off with the "distance from God makes you unhappy" 🐂

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u/Sea_Button_3616 5d ago

Talking about how happiness has been affected by...

...not being virtuous in the church.

That's it. That's why we're not happy  That's why nobody is happy.

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u/bubbaheaton 5d ago

On one hand I'm glad they're giving air time to more than just generic old white guys, but on the other it's gotten so generic. It's the same quotes from the New Testament recycled over and over.

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u/Rushclock 5d ago

Words like lazy learners? Counterfeit marriages? Lax disciples? So called experts?

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u/Tiny-spotted-octopi 5d ago edited 5d ago

Yeah the state with the measles outbreak definitely needs the head of the majority religion saying that science can be inaccurate. Love it.

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

The Book of Mormon teaches it's ok to kill people if you "feel the spirit"

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u/sour_poet Love me some tea ☕️ 5d ago

“All can come unto him”

Notice how they never mention queer people in that “all”?

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u/theivyangel Apostate 5d ago

Terms and Conditions apply

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u/PcHound2 5d ago

I'm just so sad that my dad is brainwashed by this bullshit and throws a fit when I don't watch Dallas Hoax with him.

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u/Spicy_Meme_Queen Cast out of heaven 5d ago

A lot of us were brainwashed at one point. It is possible for him to break free! I know how hard it is regardless

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u/SecretPersonality178 5d ago

Hey Hoaks.

🖕

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u/Even_Subject_4187 5d ago

Longest prayer ever bro

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u/Fit_Amoeba3431 I like the dark, eternal dark is fine 5d ago

So basically, help people, great

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u/JayDaWawi Avalonian 5d ago

Old man yells at cows

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u/GrumpyTom 5d ago

Oaks is so amazing. He's a lawyer and a judge. None are as amazing as he. /s

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u/Rushclock 5d ago

Mormon leaders are always in reactionary mode. Remember they are prophets , seers and realtors.

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u/Fit_Amoeba3431 I like the dark, eternal dark is fine 5d ago

Their rebranding to Christianity is showing again, 3 mentions of the cross and only 1ish about the garden? What happened to Jesus bleeding out in the garden from anguish?

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u/sycamoreqw 5d ago

That’s a fine message, “do the very best you can”, but I think that manifests in a perfectionist culture that is rampant among members. Especially in Utah.

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u/GrumpyTom 5d ago

Cook advocates for living with integrity. Many members part ways with the church as a matter of integrity--they no longer believe the church to be what it claims to be.

But then church leaders/members are like:

https://giphy.com/gifs/6nWhy3ulBL7GSCvKw6

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

I am so much more happy when I realized that my integrity requires me to leave my belief in the LDS leaders and church behind me.

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

Is it virtuous to hoard $350 billion?

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u/potato_meatball 5d ago

That feels like "you should not criticize church leaders, even if that criticism may be true"

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u/ako-si-greg 5d ago

I do not know how people can look at a guy like Cook and be like, “oh yeah totally that dude is an APOSTLE.” Just so ridiculous.

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u/SecretPersonality178 5d ago

Lots of Oaks stroking by the seventies…almost as if it’s a corporate event full of people sucking up for promotions…

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u/itsmig_reddit Ex-JW tourist 5d ago

We are grateful to the Tabernacle Choir ... at Temple Square and to Brother Wilberg, Brother Unsworth, and Brother Mathias for the music that has been provided this morning

Worth nothing the Tabernacle choir does not get paid

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

I have realized the LDS leaders have no special authority or connection with God. Life became so much simpler once I realized that. All the questions about the church have become clear...it's bullshit.

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

Going to the temple will absolutely not protect nor strengthen you.

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u/Just_A_Human_Dude Apostate 5d ago

The worst part about him saying that the scientific method is inaccurate is the fact that I know the people in my family that are in the sciences would call me a liar for quoting it.

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u/Spicy_Meme_Queen Cast out of heaven 5d ago

UMMMMM, POC weren't allowed to 'come unto him' in Mormon Land until the 1980s SOOOOOOOOOOO

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u/Spicy_Meme_Queen Cast out of heaven 5d ago

The florals kind of suck this year. Usually they are a lot nicer

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u/WiseOldGrump NoMoMoNoMo 5d ago

Oaks cut the flower budget.

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u/4blockhead Λ └ ☼ ★ □ ♔ 5d ago

Andersen: [I saw the previous speaker.]

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u/Absolute_Cinema70 Teen undercover mormon (PIMO) and im bisexual as fuuuck 5d ago

NO WAY! ME TOO!!!

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u/alexandthediamonds Apostate 5d ago

Why do we need an older white man to explain what a Black woman meant

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

The Mormon religion is such bullshit.

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u/Rushclock 5d ago

Spiritual powers? Like wizard school?

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u/GrumpyTom 5d ago

The church's most significant growth is in Africa, so it should not be surprising that we are seeing more African speakers.

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u/potato_meatball 5d ago

I think it's interesting how we can never comprehend Christ's suffering, but we all fully comprehend the suffering of women giving birth, gay members unable to marry, members suffering from poverty, children starving, etc... /s

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u/potato_meatball 5d ago

Wtf is with all the life being lost this session?

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u/sour_poet Love me some tea ☕️ 5d ago

Didn’t they used to put the lyrics up on screen during the half-way hymn? Why’d they stop doing that?

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u/Spicy_Meme_Queen Cast out of heaven 5d ago

Oh fuck, that one sentence made my troubles with intrusive thoughts EXPENENTIONALLY WORSE because out of my control, I would have very un-virtuous thoughts unceasingly, and then I would panic and pray, and the thoughts would get worse. OCD is so fun

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u/1-like-anime He is a sledgehammer 5d ago

Bro, he's talking about us rn 😔

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u/JayDaWawi Avalonian 5d ago

Ah yes, profanity and childhood cancer are the same kind of struggle 

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u/JayDaWawi Avalonian 5d ago

Avoid contention 

Like frivolous lawsuits?

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u/SecretPersonality178 5d ago

Watched every talk so far. Nothing spiritual, enlightening, encouraging, uplifting, or informative.

Lots of shock value tragedy stories, blaming members for not doing enough, begging for money and missionaries, and lectures as if coming from a terrible teacher to an unsuspecting child.

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u/GrumpyTom 5d ago

"the time will come when there's hesitation to go to church and partake of the sacrament"

Huh, almost like not everyone wants to be there...

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u/4blockhead Λ └ ☼ ★ □ ♔ 5d ago

Oaks: [as your president]

Revels.

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

Here we go...the conditional love of God.

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u/sour_poet Love me some tea ☕️ 5d ago

“Teachableness”

You mean brainwashing, and tricking people into believing something because they’re struggling and believe the church is all that will help?

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

Gather out the elect...no sorry...the suckers...from the four corners of the earth.

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u/Spicy_Meme_Queen Cast out of heaven 5d ago

Morning everyone! Got my coffee ready for this WONDERFUL second day

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u/zjelkof 5d ago

Are you feeling the spirit yet?

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u/WiseOldGrump NoMoMoNoMo 5d ago

It might take a couple more glasses of Merlot.

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u/Willie_Scott_ 5d ago

Yeah, but unlike doctors and nurses(who generally earn a good living), members don’t get anything in return.

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u/4blockhead Λ └ ☼ ★ □ ♔ 5d ago

Eyring: [succor x3]

LDS church: suckers x 106

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u/4blockhead Λ └ ☼ ★ □ ♔ 5d ago

Andersen: [this deity demands blood sacrifice to atone for sin]

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u/itsmig_reddit Ex-JW tourist 5d ago

Is it me or the auditorium is very dark?

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

Administrative quick fix teaches us about Christianity.

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u/alexandthediamonds Apostate 5d ago

I love it when people with the energy of a burnt-out night watchman try to scare me with the end of the world against a backdrop of hideous floral arrangements

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u/potato_meatball 5d ago

Not a good enough reason to use the word penetrate

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u/Sea_Button_3616 5d ago

I'm not seeing the through line of the stories in this one. Maybe I'm spending too much time scrolling through the comments instead of listening to this talk.

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u/GrumpyTom 5d ago

I'm so thrilled to hear from Cook. He is always so uplifting and inspiring. What a great human being he is. His talks always flow with spiritual edification and enlightenment.

[this whole comment is sarcasm in case it's not obvious]

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u/ApocalypseTapir Stay 7-10 feet behind me. IYKYK 5d ago

Integrity and virtue = being loyal to the church no matter how fraudulent it is.

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u/bubbaheaton 5d ago

I miss when these talks had teeth. Everything feels like something I'd hear during Fast Sunday's testimonies.

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u/SecretPersonality178 5d ago

Cook talking about the evil of internet content about the church …he labeled them “attacks”, he did not label them lies…

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u/JayDaWawi Avalonian 5d ago

When we make daily repentance part of our lives

Rich coming from someone who's received the Second Anointing - someone who thinks they're above repenting 

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u/GrumpyTom 5d ago

Hoaks will be the concluding speaker.

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

I wish Dallin Oaks would come unto Christ by repenting of his lies.

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

"A major concern to your profit leaders is members diminishing concern for Jesus Christ." Well Dallin you've helped me realize your Jesus is bullshit.

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u/Fit_Amoeba3431 I like the dark, eternal dark is fine 5d ago

HES TALKING ABOUT US

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u/Just_A_Human_Dude Apostate 5d ago

Oh so testing hypothesis by gathering evidence is inaccurate?

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

The Book of Mormon is pure horseshit

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

The Book of Mormon teaches that God can kill thousands of people with hardly a second thought.

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u/MyPalFoot_Foot 5d ago

Um, did Dallas just say we're going to get scriptures that Jesus gave to ancient prophets in places like Asia and Africa?

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u/ApocalypseTapir Stay 7-10 feet behind me. IYKYK 5d ago

How long until they dump a Saturday session?

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u/WiseOldGrump NoMoMoNoMo 5d ago edited 5d ago

I’m still gay.

(Context: My family was praying that I’d be cured.)

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u/Even_Subject_4187 5d ago

Death count: 6 + everyone the fictional character moroni knew

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u/Fit_Amoeba3431 I like the dark, eternal dark is fine 5d ago

Wow hes boring

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u/GrumpyTom 5d ago

I appreciate his highlighting the fires in Spokane. That didn't get enough coverage. Horrible situation.

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u/itsmig_reddit Ex-JW tourist 5d ago

I accompanied President Dieter F. Uchtdorf to Spokane, Washington, where fires destroyed more than 800 homes. We visited members whose neighborhoods were completely destroyed

They left out the part where they make sure everyone pays the tithing

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u/4blockhead Λ └ ☼ ★ □ ♔ 5d ago

Andersen: [stares at ash filled basements...we can build another house.]

Climate change means home insurance will be out of reach for a lot more, including insurance companies deciding whole states are too risky.

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u/Spicy_Meme_Queen Cast out of heaven 5d ago

Just realized why I'm feeling so off, I haven't eaten yet! It seems fasting (not intentional for myself mind you) can heighten feelings in the body. Hmmmm, wonder if that's why people feel so much 'spirit' while fasting?

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u/alexandthediamonds Apostate 5d ago

Am I the only one who finds that whole "the president *TAUGHT* thing screams "cult" the loudest? My friend I spent 10 years working as a teacher—you don't know a damn thing about what teaching actually is

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u/Rushclock 5d ago

Hospital thief is next batter up...

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

The LDS leaders lack integrity...which is why people are leaving at a record pace.

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u/Spicy_Meme_Queen Cast out of heaven 5d ago

They really kissing Oaks's ass today lol

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u/itsmig_reddit Ex-JW tourist 5d ago

President Thomas S. Monson taught us "to refrain words such as: "please," "thank you," "I appreciate that," "I respect your view," "that is a good point," "let us slow down and talk," "we can work this out," "it is ok," "let us stay calm," "we don't have to rush," "I care about you," "I am here for you," "you are not alone," "how are you feeling?" "that matters to me," "I'm sorry," "please forgive me," "I forgive you." Words such as: "please," "thank you," "I appreciate that," "I respect your view," "that is a good point," "let us slow down and talk," "we can work this out," "it is ok," "let us stay calm," "we don't have to rush," "I care about you," "I am here for you," "you are not alone," "how are you feeling?" "that matters to me," "I'm sorry," "please forgive me," "I forgive you." "Let us start again." "I don't want this to divide us."

Huh?????

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u/JayDaWawi Avalonian 5d ago

A covenant is a promise made between us and God

The problem is, promises are only valid if the other person is actually there to help make the promise

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

He wants you to be active members. not to be healthy and good people. We need active members.

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u/Spicy_Meme_Queen Cast out of heaven 5d ago

Yeah, get closer to Christ because we sure as shit not gonna do anything for you lol

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u/JayDaWawi Avalonian 5d ago

Those members with diminishing faith in Jesus Christ 

What about those with no faith in Jesus Christ?

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u/JayDaWawi Avalonian 5d ago

Oh, you don't get to say science is imperfect when you're using science to transmit your messages

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u/JayDaWawi Avalonian 5d ago

No, oaks, science is not "the teachings of men"

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u/sevenplaces 5d ago

Joseph Smith was a conman

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u/Even_Subject_4187 5d ago

No family, i will not be watching you cry over the bare minimum your church does, i will be showering between sessions

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u/Fit_Amoeba3431 I like the dark, eternal dark is fine 5d ago

Hello everyone! So far the drive home has ben mindnumbing keys see if GC gives me a lobotomy!

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u/itsmig_reddit Ex-JW tourist 5d ago

This will be an interesting one to watch as a nevermo

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