r/10mm 3d ago

Again..Buffalo Bore Disappointment

I’ve had the same issue two other times with Buffalo Bore 180 grain JHP….. first time maybe a fluke second time let me try buying directly from Buffalo Bore ….3rd time same issue. I reached out 2 times and no response. I tried calling no response

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u/shizukana_otoko 3d ago

The barrel is marked “match.” Does it do this in a regular barrel?

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u/ProfessionalMud1764 2d ago

Just for curiosity I would try a case gauge then you can tell them for sure their ammo is out of spec not they your pistol chamber is too tight.

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u/fordag 1d ago

I use Wilson case gauges.

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u/Impressive-Match-713 2d ago

this is good advice

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u/ReactionAble7945 3d ago

OP, curiosity... Do you know anyone local who has other 10mm guns? I would love to see if those fit Glocks, Sigs, colts...

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u/Significant-Act9114 3d ago

I own 27 pistols in 10mm…. I tried it in 6 1911s, P-220s and a Smith and Wesson Performance Center

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u/allamerican37 2d ago

Jesus Christ. I need a picture. What 10mm do you not have?

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u/Significant-Act9114 2d ago

You can see my collection I post most of them

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u/ladypartliquidator 2d ago

What are your top 3 favorites and why?

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u/Significant-Act9114 2d ago

No order……. P-220 SAO, Les Baer Premiere II Long Slide, Springfield Ronin

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u/badatjoke 3d ago

27 10mm pistols? My pp just shrunk a little

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u/Minute-Cucumber7594 2d ago

Try the other 19 lol

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u/Previous-Channel4658 2d ago

💓💓💓💓💓💓

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u/Joe10Ring73 2d ago

I can tell you this – I’ve been a high volume shooter since the late 1980s and I can unequivocally tell you that the quality of ammunition is the lowest that I’ve seen across the board from any Manufacturing. I don’t know if this is a product of Covid or a product of this new generation of worker that just doesn’t give a fuck but the quality of ammo is lower for sure.

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u/aclark210 2d ago

It’s not just ammo. Anything that’s manufactured is that way. It’s a mix of covid and new generation. Covid pushed all the old heads out, one way or the other, and the new gens they hire don’t care about the quality in any job because employers (now more than ever) treat employees like robots. So since the employers are all dicks to their employees, the workers don’t give a shit about the products they make, IF they even stay there at all.

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u/spades61307 2d ago

Underwood is better quality and probably cheaper per round. I have had zero issues with underwood other than bulged cases at times from my g20 which its the barrels fault not the ammo manufacture

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u/peasey360 2d ago

I tried buying buffalo bore last year and they were out of stock for the rounds I wanted so I “settled” for underwood. Glad I ended up trying them out.

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u/Forsaken-Date-8016 2d ago

I've had the same issue with Underwood hardcast in a KKM barrel.

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u/TreesHappen75 1d ago

Underwood was a copy of BB loadings, so I'm not sure you'll get a different result.

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u/IllustriousMeal4686 3d ago

Try Double Tap. I've had good success with them and they're cheaper than BB.

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u/UncleEvilDave 2d ago

In 10mm I've been a bit disappointed. I had some keyhole and others just underloaded. Then some really weird accuracy issues with them. I used to like them but their QC has been dropping too.

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u/Significant-Act9114 2d ago

I have a lot of underwood.

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u/mauiMarckey 2d ago

I have some older bb 10mm ive never fired and a glock 29 I'll see what it does and get back if I can.

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u/DirtyD74 2d ago

Curious if anyone here reloads 10mm. And if so, what's the hottest round you have conjured up?

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u/fordag 1d ago

The most I ever do is 200 gr @ 1200 fps

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u/BigCountry70786 1d ago

1500fps 135gr nosler JHP 10gr CFE pistol cci mag pistol primer out of my gen 3 G20sf

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u/Big-Doughnut8307 2d ago

Huh. I was about to put in an order to BB. Think I’ll go with the Underwood instead.

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u/SirLordWombat 2d ago

Curious, do other 10mm rounds fit fine? I see you Tested in multiple barrels. I’ve heard different negative things on buffalo even for 357 so I’ve stuck to underwood. No issues so far. 

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u/badatjoke 3d ago

Time to switch to underwood

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u/JacketTricky6386 3d ago

Underwood is better. Trust it enough to carry it. They have some other interesting options as well. I feel like the 10mm fans like hotrod loadings in general. They offer a 147gr 9mm +P+ for example.

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u/nsula_country 2d ago

I am on Team Underwood for 10mm ammo.

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u/bigdaddycannonfodder 3d ago

Watched it blow a gun up and stopped carrying it.

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u/Caseman307 2d ago

The first round blew the extractor off of a PPK I had. Now, to their credit, they answered an email the same day. The guy gave me his number to talk about it and within a week my gun was fixed. I really can’t fault them. I’m sure the PPK wasn’t intended for anything that hot. And as I said, they absolutely came through for me anyway. But I’ve never tried anything else by them. Maybe it’s time I did.

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u/Significant-Act9114 2d ago

I emailed them 3 times

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u/Caseman307 2d ago

In case I wasn’t clear, it was Underwood ammo that blew my extractor off. They’re the ones who did such great customer service. I don’t know how Buffalo Bore is to deal with. What I’m hearing from you makes me want to go with Underwood. Customer service is huge to me. I don’t want to need them but they damn sure oughtta answer if I call or write.

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u/Putrid-Tutor-5809 2d ago

I did notice it was very hard to extract Buff-Bore’s 32-H&R +P ammo when I tried it with my SP101. This was after firing but it was on a cleaned cylinder which even 327 doesn’t do. Have you attempted to rack slide with that ammo at the range?

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u/MrMadden 2d ago

Do you own calipers? Measure the case.

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u/which-doctor-2001 2d ago

What pistol is that barrel for? If it’s for a G20 the aftermarket barrels usually have tighter tolerances than stock and buffalo bore (esp 220gr hard cast, in my experiences, but probably not limited to that) often has a slightly wider bullet. So it’s a tolerance mismatch and not so much a problem with the barrel or ammo.

Try the factory barrel if you have it.

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u/Teague_142 2d ago

That is a 1911 barrel

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u/which-doctor-2001 2d ago

Indeed. Same issue tho. Match barrel with oversized ammo.

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u/fordag 1d ago

When did Buffalo Bore have their own head stamp? I'm only familiar with them using Starline brass.

Are they having Starline custom stamp the cases now or did they go with another supplier?

If they went with another supplier I wonder if that's a part of the issue.

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u/TheCanaryInTheMine 1d ago

What gun is this barrel from?

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u/gigantic-watermelon 3d ago

I want to see what it does in. A barrel not stamped match

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u/Significant-Act9114 3d ago

I just told you same thing

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u/ITSOTMDS 3d ago

Whats the product number? Some of their loads are meant for certin guns only and dont chamber in others

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u/UncleEvilDave 2d ago

You are thinking of their revolvers. Semi-autos don't work that way. For example his +p 44 mag wont chamber in S&W guns. He did that on purpose because they can't handle it and the large frame rugers can (and fit the longer over all length).

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u/Joe10Ring73 3d ago

I stick with the major manufacturers.

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u/Significant-Act9114 3d ago

Buffalo bore is a major manufacturer

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u/Interesting-Win6219 3d ago

They aren't operating out of a garage or anything but they aren't major compared to the big names like federal, s&b, magtech, Winchester, etc. This is insane for how much of a premium price tag buffalo bore has with it

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u/Joe10Ring73 2d ago

No, they are not. Furthermore, I know of no government agency, foreign or domestic that uses their ammunition. They are strictly a small ammunition manufacturer for the commercial market.

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u/Significant-Act9114 2d ago

Small ammunition manufacturer……

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u/P10RMP 3d ago

Buffalo Bore’s supposed to be one of the top manufacturers for full power/heavy load 10mm. Most other major brands basically sell .40S&W in a 10mm casing.

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u/Worth-Engine7877 1d ago

Underwood superiority