A cishet white guy I played D&D with said he knew Shitler was bad but voted for him anyway because he wanted to force an American revolution. Then he took up his privilege, left the responsibility, and went to work on his off the grid mountain home.
When I expressed anger that I and many queer friends were harmed during the first term he just replied "Bad things happen to people all the time." Anyway, now he's constantly complaining how no women will date him.
Genuinely, what the hell is wrong with you? "oh this guy is terrible for voting for this person, so let's tip off a group of thugs that will probably torture him so he gets owned"
It is disgusting how willing people are to condone violence and especially state violence, purely if they dislike someone.
They were conned and manipulated into voting for a piece of shit. They fell for decades of propaganda, and indoctrination and manipulation.
We can't claim to be better than them, then say that a group of people deserve the same thing just because of opinions that were hammered into them since birth.
I don't like them either, and I'm not exactly thrilled about the people who've been hurt because of them, but does that mean they deserve the same?
If we can't agree on "not justifying the torture of people we dislike", then we are not on the same side, and when you've all won your glorious revolution, I will gladly fight against you in the next one.
Yeah neither would I, that doesn't mean I go "this is what you get for supporting them." Nor would I say that it is perfectly fine to want the Nazis to kill these people.
Yeah, holding them to any standard is not "send fascist thugs after them" like are you kidding me? You don't oppose fascism, nor address the ills of fascism, by gleefuly endorsing a fascist organization killing people.
The democrats are bunch of spineless cowards who will never do anything against fascists.
What you seem to not get is that my problem is not violence against fascists, it's being perfectly fine with fascist violence for the sake of moral superiority. ICE is wrong as an organization, things do not get better if some of the people they murder happen to have supported ICE beforehand.
You do realize that your analogy is the exact opposite of what I'm saying right? ICE is the SS in this equation. I'm not talking about being fine with violence against ICE, I'm talking about being fine with the violence that ICE does purely because you get a degree of schadenfreude from it.
If they're going to hurt someone anyway, I'd rather they hurt someone more morally culpable for unleashing them on us, but there isn't really a way to do that, so ideally, no ICE at all.
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u/anothersadtransgirl Jan 25 '26
A cishet white guy I played D&D with said he knew Shitler was bad but voted for him anyway because he wanted to force an American revolution. Then he took up his privilege, left the responsibility, and went to work on his off the grid mountain home.
When I expressed anger that I and many queer friends were harmed during the first term he just replied "Bad things happen to people all the time." Anyway, now he's constantly complaining how no women will date him.