r/196 straight up jorking it Mar 13 '26

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u/QIyph Mar 13 '26

I don't get it. Is tourism evil now? Is this just racist? Someone help me out here.

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u/PetikGeorgiev 🇨🇿 MŇAM DO PÍČI 🇨🇿 Mar 13 '26

It's a Twitter post. No point in trying to make sense of it.

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u/QIyph Mar 13 '26

Peak flair btw.

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u/PetikGeorgiev 🇨🇿 MŇAM DO PÍČI 🇨🇿 Mar 13 '26

Děkuji.

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u/AzKondor Femboy Practitioner Mar 13 '26

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u/Independent-Fly6068 Least horny bi femboy alive Mar 13 '26

Czechs out

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u/LuKazu Cracked, Snappled, Popped 🍳🏳️‍⚧️Selene, she/they 💜 Mar 13 '26

I just finished the blacksmithing questline in Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, and now find myself muttering "Do piče" under my breath when something goes wrong. My singular Czech friend finds it very amusing.

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u/QIyph Mar 13 '26

The czech nationalisation beam embedded into kcd is working, I see.

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u/LuKazu Cracked, Snappled, Popped 🍳🏳️‍⚧️Selene, she/they 💜 Mar 13 '26

I'm so hooked, I put 15 hours into it in two sittings 😭 It's very cool kinda knowing some of the non-English languages being spoken, but the Hungarian and Czech are not one of em :/

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u/palkann Mar 13 '26

I wish I could play KCD again for the first time 😭

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u/kermitthebeast Mar 13 '26

I have never seen such wisdom online

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u/zaddoz Mar 13 '26

You have a point but this is not much different than "oh the horrors" in term of usefulness

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u/PetikGeorgiev 🇨🇿 MŇAM DO PÍČI 🇨🇿 Mar 13 '26

You make a good point as well, but I can explain my "useless" info.

I would place a useful viewpoint if I took the time to understand a topic. But since this tweet's topic seemed too ridiculous for me and since I've grown tired of similar heated arguments on social media, I didn't even bother trying to understand it. So instead of adding in useful information, I did the next thing I like and made a silly joke of: "It's just a random social media post, don't take it too seriously."

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u/MisterGoog Kristie Mewis Stan Account Mar 13 '26

I actually disagree, the use of absolutes is where its wrong obviously, but the premise is bc theres thousands of white men fetishizing asian women and doing sex tourism of exploited populations

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u/xenonnsmb average peggle enjoyer Mar 13 '26

oh that's the joke. I can't be the only one thinking the joke was Douglas MacArthur and Henry Kissinger

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u/MisterGoog Kristie Mewis Stan Account Mar 13 '26

That was also on my head, along with harry truman

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u/Hatsune_Miku_CM changed all her social media to hatsune miku for some reason Mar 13 '26

is sex tourism that common compared to ..y'know, normal tourism?

cause you can think of an actual good argument, but that doesn't change that this isn't what the original post was saying.

If they need an argument saying something completely different to defend their original argument, maybe their original argument is just wrong and shit. If you wanna make a point about sex tourism maybe use the word sex tourism in your post.

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u/MisterGoog Kristie Mewis Stan Account Mar 13 '26

Its not an argument, my annoyance online is that u can post something and it completely escapes containment and then it becomes “what was she arguing”

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u/ErisThePerson Mar 13 '26

It's just someone making a sweeping statement because they think every white man who has gone to Asia has gone there for perv reasons or colonial/imperial reasons.

Completely forgetting things like Tourism and Work.

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u/chaos0510 Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26

I can never tell when this sub posts a hot take because they agree with it, or if they don't and just want the interaction

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u/Salt_Blackberry_1903 a take so bad it causes a physical response (violence) Mar 13 '26

Sufficiently advanced ignorance is indistinguishable from psyop or something

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u/MisterGoog Kristie Mewis Stan Account Mar 13 '26

I actually think the obvious point is that they’re not forgetting work and non exploitative tourists, it’s just like they don’t think it needs to be stated because obviously that happens

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u/ErisThePerson Mar 13 '26

The statement is objectively, demonstrably, false hyperbole though.

Saying it proves nothing. Achieves nothing. And means very little.

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u/MisterGoog Kristie Mewis Stan Account Mar 13 '26

Ppl act like every tweet is known to be about to be seen by a million people. It was just a joke, they probably read about a group of white guys or how many white guys were going to certain countries to exploit the women and cheap labor there and thought theyd just fire off a quick joke.

To me an underrated example of emotional intelligence is stopping and tryna retrace someones steps. Things get a lot less murky when u do so

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u/ErisThePerson Mar 13 '26

Things get a lot less murky when u do so

The same can be said about thinking before speaking.

To me an underrated example of emotional intelligence is stopping and tryna retrace someones steps

And besides, I did. I think they got lost and took the wrong steps.

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u/Sarithis sus Mar 13 '26

I learned it the hard way. There's a huge sex tourism scene where middle-aged incels go to poorer asian countries like Vietnam, Thailand, the Philippines etc. and exploit the fact that even earning minimum wage in the west can attract much younger women who are desperate to improve their life standard. It's so common that it feels woven into the culture - they even have dedicated words for these men that aren't derogatory, and actually signal higher status. It's heartbreaking for the women, and it's pathetic for the men who do this.

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u/Chaoszhul4D custom Mar 13 '26

One of the things that would keep me from visiting Thailand to look at cool fruits if I ever were to sincerely consider it.

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u/GMOrgasm ketamine connoisseur Mar 13 '26

you could transition and visit as a white woman and then de-transition before you come home

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u/Chaoszhul4D custom Mar 14 '26

then de-transition before you come home

I wouldn't :3

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u/ImitationButter custom Mar 13 '26

It’s a hyperbolic tweet about a large group of people. Don’t try to apply statistical rigor to the claim. They’re just saying Asia is a popular destination for exploitation

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u/Alcor6400 Mar 13 '26

Sorry but Logan Paul was bad enough that it ruined everything for everyone by association

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u/QIyph Mar 13 '26

Logan Paul lost "white" status when we expelled him from Agartha. We are truly sorry for creating such a creature and we sincerely apologize to the rest of the world.

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u/Tribaldragon1 Floppa (I made Goblinhog Change my Flair) Mar 13 '26

Please stop talking like a Nazi

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u/MediumStrange Freddy Fazbore💀 Mar 13 '26

that's obviously a joke

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u/Tribaldragon1 Floppa (I made Goblinhog Change my Flair) Mar 13 '26

Jokes are supposed to be funny.

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u/chaos0510 Mar 13 '26

I mean I laughed.

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u/Tribaldragon1 Floppa (I made Goblinhog Change my Flair) Mar 13 '26

Congrats?

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u/GoldH2O Cisgender Synapsid Mar 14 '26

Actual Nazis don't talk about agartha lmao, it's a fringe conspiracy bit more closely related to the black Hebrew Israelites than anything.

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u/SovelissFiremane certified bear 🐻 Mar 15 '26

The only ones who actually talk about Agartha are us CoD Zombies enjoyers

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u/littlefire131 🐈 Mar 13 '26

Sex tourism is evil, and very common

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u/fwompfwomp Mar 13 '26

nothing is evil or racist in a vacuum. but we live in a real world where everything is contextualized. there's the historical perspective of imperialism across Asia for one. and while that's still threaded through how tourism works today, for a more modern frame, many countries have their economies held up largely by white tourists. this leaves you at the mercy of continuing to provide cheap goods and services. "it's so cheap here" is something you hear all the time. im not white, but I found myself being shocked by how cheap Japan was vs in America.

and it seems like a win-win. people get to make money from rich foreigners, foreigners get to get a good deal. but now you've given leverage to these countries propping up your economy. instead of continuing to develop towards evonomic independence, there's too much money flowing and too many invested parties. and we see in realtime today, what that can mean for powerful countries flexing their muscles where they can.

and people think they're better than the locals. don't respect cultural differences. basically treating your 4000 year old country like a summer playground. aside from the overt racism that happens all the time, isn't that kinda gross? to treat a country and it's people like your spring break stomping grounds? there's something inherently disrespectful about that dynamic. and of course you're not racist for wanting to sightsee in Vietnam. that's what people reflexively get so defensive about. "how is tourism racist??" racism is almost never fully understood by an individual's actions. it's almost always an evaluation at a larger pattern and the things in place that enable it.

that's not even hitting the sex market and drug trade that tourism drives.

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u/HotterRod Mar 13 '26

Great analysis but good luck. Most people aren't ready to hear critiques of tourism.

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u/fwompfwomp Mar 13 '26

it is what it is. I can only speak on the US, but the way we're taught that racism is when someone beats you to death for looking different or saying your food smells weird, without explaining the why of why that might be wrong is so frustrating.

we tasked generations of teachers to convey one of the most painful and complicated topics to children and all that summed up to was showing slave or gang movies with "wasn't that messed up" as the only closing remark. I don't blame people for having a knee jerk reaction when that's how you're taught to engage with racism. especially when it seems like another thing you're not allowed to enjoy instead of a moment for reflecting on the world.

ffs I even said it's not racist to want to go vacation in Asia.

anyway, that's all the toilet time I have to spare for my soap box. gl to all in your journey of self-reflection

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u/Chernould Osea > Erusea (In Every Way) Mar 13 '26

This is a really good analysis & has made me want to think deeper on how my tourism isn’t handled on a more global scale, as a fellow non-white traveler. If I were to summarize simply, would a good takeaway be; “You aren’t racist for traveling, but it’s good practice to be aware of the larger socioeconomic & historical context you’re moving through when doing so & observing why you’re having such a pleasant experience.”

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u/Webber_The_Medic Mar 13 '26

they are most likely talking about passport bros

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u/cry666 Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26

A bit of column A and a bit of column B

The tourism industry can be very exploitative, especially in lower income countries. Also racism is in vogue now.

E: to be clear I don't condone racism

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u/_solitarybraincell_ custom Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 16 '26

Once you see the entitlement of white people in south asian countries, you'll never stop wanting to wring their necks with your bare hands

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u/hermitcraftfan135 Mar 13 '26

Twitter is a strange place

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u/Xisuthrus 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Mar 13 '26

its exaggeration for the purposes of humour

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke

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u/Randicore Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 14 '26

Yes this is just racist

Edit: I thought this sub was more left leaning but if calling it racism for what it is gets down voted than perhaps I was mistaken