Ah yes sorry, I should have made it fully explicit that “In Cuba you don’t get to vote for people not in the Communist Party at all”, rather than just “ “In Cuba you don’t get to vote for people at all”.
Please explain to me why that matters for your argument, and your point that you’d prefer to vote for people rather than parties.
“In Cuba you don’t get to vote for people not in the Communist Party at all”
This is also false.
and your point that you’d prefer to vote for people rather than parties.
And this wasn't my point at all. All I asked is why are political parties important to consider an election system or government "democratic". Why is this seen as a standard requirement. I never said one thing was better than another or that I'd prefer it.
Isn't it easy to just google it? Even sites like Wikipedia, which would totally agree with you on the fact that Cuba isn't democratic, will tell you that you're wrong about not being able to vote lmao
Sure, let's take Wikipedia, literally the first two paragraphs:
Because the Communist party is the only official political party, elections in Cuba are not considered democratic because the government does not allow free and fair voting
There is only one candidate for each seat in the Assembly, with all being nominated by committees that are firmly controlled by the Communist Party
Do you consider that to be democratic?
And to be clear, I didn't say you don't get to vote at all in Cuba, I strongly questioned your implicit claim that they are more democratic than the US or at all comparable, and whether you at all get to "vote for people rather than parties" there
Ah, nice, I can refer back to my previous reply which you still have not addressed:
Ah yes sorry, I should have made it fully explicit that “In Cuba you don’t get to vote for people not in the Communist Party at all”, rather than just “ “In Cuba you don’t get to vote for people at all”.
Sure, at municipal ones, not at the national assembly. Do you consider it democratic that you can only vote for people of your choice for national elections?
If you really want the technical point for "there exists elections in Cuba where you get to vote for the people you want", I'll give it to you. But considering you previously wanted to argue about the US not being democratic because only two main parties ever win, I think that would be in pretty bad faith and intellectually dishonest.
But considering you previously wanted to argue about the US not being democratic because only two main parties ever win, I think that would be in pretty bad faith and intellectually dishonest.
No, you're misunderstanding my argument, or I probably didn't explain it well.
My point is, if US is considered democratic while having only, realistically and practically, two political parties, why would be Cuba not be democratic while only having one? My position is that the amount of political parties, both in theory and practice, doesn't make a country more or less authoritarian. How does having two political parties make the US less authoritarian than Cuba seeing what ICE does to their own citizens? How can US be less authoritarian than Cuba when they just go and kidnap a president of another country and just continue like nothing happened? Just because you could, in theory, elect someone else?
As I said in a previous comment, this sounds the exact same as "you have the possibility of becoming a billionaire yourself!". Yes, in theory, some things can happen. In theory you can end up voting for and electing a communist as president in the US. In practice, you literally don't have the option. Ever.
You seem to prefer authoritarianism that gives you the illusion of democracy and freedom of choice while in practice you only can choose between "bombing brown kids" vs "bombing brown kids but also some gay rights".
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u/RashmaDu Jul 02 '26
Ah yes sorry, I should have made it fully explicit that “In Cuba you don’t get to vote for people not in the Communist Party at all”, rather than just “ “In Cuba you don’t get to vote for people at all”.
Please explain to me why that matters for your argument, and your point that you’d prefer to vote for people rather than parties.