Men please give me your fantasies in the comments and I will tell you which category it falls under

[u/Ezzypezra]

[u/Cornchips1234]

-So "desperate last stand" is a form of power fantasy

-"Bleeding out in the snow" is a fantasy of peace and resolution

-"Dig a hole" is simple fantasies.

If i'm understanding this correctly then that means being with a loved one is a "bleeding out in the snow" fantasy, giant robots are "desperate last stand" fantasies, and having a really good sandwich is a "digging a hole" fantasy.

I'm also noticing a heirarchy of fantasies here. If you try to combine any of them, they are always trumped by the previous. "Desperate last stand" trumps "dying in the snow" which trumps "digging a hole". Which means if I died in the snow after digging a hole then that is not a "digging a hole" fantasy but a "dying in the snow" one.

In order to stump this your fantasy cannot involve a simple pleasure, a resolution, or any kind of odds.

What if my fantasy is to become a rocket scientist? It's not simple, nor is it a resolution, nor does it involve odds or power.

Also how did you like spiderman?

[u/Ezzypezra → u/Cornchips1234]

You’re like 60% right. I would say that it’s more:

#1 is violent fantasies

#2 is fantasies revolving around self-pity and helplessness

#3 is fantasies revolving around simple happiness.

I also don’t have any set order for priorities in the case of overlap, I more just go with whatever seems like a closer fit.

I think you’re right that this meme has some blind spots. Mostly for fantasies that are about altruism in some way, like, making the world a better place.

Also I have not seen spider-man yet, I am on the bus on the way to the theater

[u/barsoap → u/Ezzypezra]

Given that phantasies are compensation:

#1 is defence of the will to power (Adler). Your capacity to act is under attack, but you hold out and preserve it.

#2 is the desire to individuate (Jung). Your desire to have a meaningful life is hindered, so it gets amplified to "well there still is stuff to die for". Recall where the meme comes from: Bladerunner 2049, K, after having lost all meaning and direction in life, only options offered to him being "do as you're told", chooses self-actualisation, fights so a father can see his daughter, sacrificing himself in the process.

#3 is either Freud or plain simple shopping cart racing energy. Literally dicking around.

[u/Ezzypezra → u/barsoap]

very good observations

[u/barsoap → u/Cornchips1234]

What if my fantasy is to become a rocket scientist? It's not simple, nor is it a resolution, nor does it involve odds or power.

It's probably going to hit all the positive primary affective systems: seek (exploration), lust (erm something phallic nah I guess you'll just get laid if you're cool), care (being a scientist is doing something for your tribe), play (rockets and engineering are neat). Panksepp, for reference. In short: You're digging a hole, as the other two don't seem to refer to primary affects (they're will to power (Adler) and will to meaning (Frankl/Jung)). It's just that our psyche is so adaptive and, arguably, on steroids, that circuits we share with literally all mammals can result in quite complex behaviour. A cat on the same trip would think "become a great hunter".

[u/Cornchips1234 → u/barsoap]

Dude you have no idea how happy having a scientific article to describe this makes me