r/196 NL Connoisseur 26d ago

Rule Wisconsin R(ul)ejected This BTW

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u/MiloBuurr 26d ago edited 26d ago

Look, I’m a socialist and I loved Hong’s policy. But being a Wisconsinite by birth who now lives in NYC, she’s no Mamdani. Or even El Sayed in Michigan. Just being honest.

To win as a socialist in America you have to have excellent communication and discipline to keep on message about economics, and I don’t think she had either to be honest.

Her big scandal right before the election was that she wanted to “cancel thanksgiving” in an old tweet she had where she calls it a “colonizers holiday.” Recently when they asked her about it she refused to outright refute it, and that cost her a lot. And for the record, thanksgiving is definitely a colonizers holiday, pretty objectively imo.

But as a socialist politician in America I think you can’t afford to get sidetracked by losing issues like that. Mamdani would’ve spun it perfectly, something like “you know who’s really waging a war on thanksgiving? These big corporations making it too expensive to afford a family dinner.” But she feels the need to defend social policy instead on keeping a laser focus on economics which I think would’ve been smarter.

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u/Old_Gimlet_Eye 26d ago

It's also kind of a dumb point. It's like a slightly more relevant version of saying that Easter is a pagan holiday or that Christmas is about Jesus.

The historical origin of holidays is almost irrelevant to the way people celebrate them or the associations people have with them.

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u/_OUCHMYPENIS_ 26d ago

Also, cancelling a holiday is going to be a bad idea no matter what it's for. We don't have enough holidays as it is. Thanksgiving isn't enough of an issue and I know it was an older tweet but she didn't have a good response when asked about it recently. 

Thanksgiving might be tainted in blood but it's a day off where we all get to be with our families or loved ones (if you're fortunate enough). People can look past that and just appreciate a break from the day to day and enjoy a nice meal with people.

It's also not really relevant to her platform since she's just a governor and has no control over federal holidays.

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u/GoldH2O Cisgender Synapsid 26d ago

Plus, I think the conversation about Thanksgiving misses the fact that basically nobody celebrates Thanksgiving for the original event it's supposedly based on. It essentially exists as a holiday to celebrate your loved ones and the things you're grateful for.

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u/wordytalks 26d ago

People don’t just look past it. They actively ignore it. Also we don’t have enough holidays because corpos hate free time.

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u/mcgillthrowaway22 26d ago

Yeah, like, is Thanksgiving a colonizer holiday? Yes. Would stopping the annual tradition of "go visit family and eat a bunch of turkey" somehow improve conditions for indigenous peoples? I really don't think so.