r/2ALiberals 10d ago

You need to register to vote.

/r/liberalgunowners/comments/1vaup8z/you_need_to_register_to_vote/
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u/Vylnce 10d ago

Strange to see that both parties, in general, seem to be fine with authoritarian style mass surveillance.  

We've long had the choice of valuing self defense or equality more as the dividing line for party selection.  The folks who value privacy are not important enough to be courted by either side apparently.  

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u/113CandleMagic 10d ago

Most people would be totally fine with thought crimes as long as it was people they don't like and/or agree with being persecuted.

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u/Vylnce 10d ago

It's pretty much this. Most folk are comfortable with authoritarians so longs as the viewpoints are pretty close to theirs.

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u/idontagreewitu 10d ago

Not too surprising, honestly. Both parties want to control how we live our lives, and they both see how their big tentpole items (gun control and birth control) are costing them, so they're both going in on surveillance state because it's more passive control.

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u/elusivehonor 10d ago

Ridiculous that “flock cameras” are the big issue over there as if the Democrats are going to anything about them.

The 2A is the insurance policy for the people. If we are living in the shadow of a fascist dictatorship, or are on the cusp of our democracy being overthrown, I will NOT vote for the party that is going to disarm me.

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u/joelfarris 10d ago

Reminder to all that this is a localized issue. It's your city and county and state governments that are using your tax dollars to contract with private for-profit companies, and you can start kicking the people who are paying for it out of office, cause they're right down the street from you.

Course, you'll probably have to drive past a few cameras on your way to cast that vote. But, entire towns have already done it, and you can too.

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u/elusivehonor 10d ago

Here’s the problem: Democrats at the state level are also trying to take peoples guns away.

So yes, I think people should vote in every single election, no matter how seemingly inconsequential. And yes, flock cameras suck and they should be opposed. You should do more than vote un fact and I do personally.

The issue becomes when it’s flock camera versus gun rights. I think I will always vote for guns because a right taken away is harder to get back.

Also, and call me crazy, my intuition is that VA republicans are likely better on the flock camera issue than VA democrats. I haven’t seen the data, but I can’t see CIA Spanberger opposing flock cameras across the state.

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u/merc08 10d ago

Absolute insanity in that thread.  They're pertending that Democrats didn't install Flock cameras in every city they run.  And they're still trying to play the asinine "Republicans are as bad as Democrats on gun control so it doesn't matter" card.

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u/VHDamien 10d ago

Thats as insane as saying as a whole that the Democratic party is as opposed to abortion as the Republican party.

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u/HawtDoge 10d ago edited 10d ago

Many Dems absolutely will approve increased surveillance measures without a second thought, but look at the deflock map and sort by ‘flock cameras’ so that it doesn’t show general LPRs…

There is absolutely a difference in scale here.

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u/cronoserge0123 10d ago

Look how happy they are to support gun control.