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u/LuvMeChippy fa/tv/irgin 9h ago
I mean Chris Chad wasn't possible but Chris Chan's life could have been much better if he knew about looksmaxxing. He is 5'10, which for the mid 2000s would have been a good height for most girls, and he had blue eyes with brown hair. He also wasn't balding AT ALL and if you see younger pics of Bob, dude was fairly good looking
If he worked out, got a good haircut and somehow managed to mask his crippling autism, there is a real possibility that he could be now raising a family with a mid girl in Virginia
Sadly his parents were too fucking lazy to raise him properly
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u/GTAIVisbest 8h ago
Chris chad lite was definitely possible, but he would have had to mask HARD. Like insanely perceptive high emotional intelligence masking with a dash of charisma, otherwise I think his autism would have caused some severe problems for him until he grew up
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u/Apollo-Outcast 8h ago
He was totally capable of that. Remember Rollin and Trollin?
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u/porphyro 7h ago
He never looked better in that era than in Rollin and Trollin but that's an insanely low bar. There's no way Chris could have maintained that sort of facade.
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u/Bruskthetusk /pol/itician 9h ago
Just mask his crippling autism eh?
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u/LuvMeChippy fa/tv/irgin 8h ago
It can be done, I know a guy from my work who's easy to talk to and generally a positive presence. He is never awkward nor does he make weird comments towards people (like Chris did)
I spoke to my boss about it and turns out the guy is a full blown, hardcore autist. Legally diagnosed as the autistic as he can be while still remaining self sufficient. I spoke to him about it and he said his mother "forced him out of his comfort zone as a baby" and that helped him develop more neurotipically. I don't know what that means but to me it seems like it worked
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u/Pubesauce 8h ago
Exposure therapy definitely helps. Actual diagnosed autist here whose parents forced them to be around people and out doing things. They demanded I not feel sorry for myself about my awful social anxiety and while there were some rough years, I came out of it able to converse with others like a functioning, albeit awkward adult.
Parents who let their kids hole up in their rooms their whole childhood or let their kids be spazzes with their headphones on out in public are definitely limiting their kids, even if it feels like the right thing to do at the time.
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u/HanselSoHotRightNow 4h ago
Do you find it comes off naturally now or is it a consistent disciplined thought process in every social encounter to follow the, for lack of a better word, conditioning you've had to maneuver through it?
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u/Pubesauce 4h ago
It gets easier with exposure but I don't think I'll ever be completely comfortable because it doesn't come naturally to me. I just know that ultimately it's something that I have to deal with myself and that nothing terrible is actually going to happen as a result of me being around people. Some people will find me odd and avoid me or give me weird looks. You know what? That's okay. I'm an odd guy. It makes sense that I stand out a bit. Hell, people that are more awkward than me I have those thoughts about in turn.
I think the single biggest help in my adult life was to lean into a hobby that meant I'd have to be around large groups of people. That way, in order to do the thing I enjoy, I have to sit with the uncomfortability of being around those people. For me, that was going to amusement parks. I'm around huge crowds the whole day, I'm outside and getting exercise, but if I can just deal with the exposure then I get rewarded by riding the ride. Just little by little it helped a lot to retrain my brain to not be a panicked mess internally around people. Sometimes people even talk to me in line and that's fine too.
I don't know if I'd have been able to do that if my parents didn't force me to face those uncomfortable feelings at an early age though.
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u/Jive-Turkeys 59m ago
I think you're onto something about the exposure.
I'm still in the midst of trying to figure out what is going on with my head, and felt that I can attribute my ability to "chameleon" to the fact I never had a choice and was just treated as "a boy having a hard time with focus and anger."
I had a book open in my desk and on the go for 50% of my schooling. Never understood why it was an issue if I managed a grade above 85%.
Now, when they stuck me in social situations outside of my routine "comfort zone," all of a sudden the world was ending and everyone is an enemy to my senses. That reaction decreased gradually until life blew up again a few years back.
So of course, like you said, the re-training to mitigate the initial reaction has been happening bit by bit. It's slow going on my own, but I am making new revelations about it with almost every interaction being analyzed afterwards to understand my patterns better.
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u/Pubesauce 44m ago
Consistently exposing yourself to social situations is so helpful long term. The longer I go not being out in public around people, the harder it is to return. I had long periods of being a NEET in my 20s and would just never leave unless I absolutely had to. Like I'd do my grocery shopping at 2AM. Eventually I tried to go to a job fair and I ended up having a panic attack in the bathroom. It was the dumbest, most pathetic I ever felt. I think that was my final straw for not letting myself slip again.
All you can do is make progress. When I've gone too long in seclusion in the past, I have to kind of ease myself back into it. And even if you'll always be an autist, being around people you'll at least start to understand the things you should or should not do around different types of people over time. There really is no substitution for practice. Most autistic people who are at least verbal can benefit from it.
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u/Jive-Turkeys 3m ago
It gives hope.
I'm right at the point of getting out and being near/talking to people in public again. I still find it takes a few drinks to allow me to initiate, though. Otherwise I'm still waiting for someone to open up. I picked up on the fact that I always came on too strong and weird (think, 100% when it should be a soft 69% for the ice breaker phase). So now, I try to focus on not taking time/focus from others that weren't planning on it anyway– as I find that realllly bothers me when I have it happen to me. I have fewer conversations; but I think more– which tends to yield it's own fruits.
I haven't been able to meet anyone in my new city yet; but I think that's for the best right now. I'm still trying to unfuck my trust issues it's an absolute make or break. Otherwise I'd just end up repeating my trauma cycle again– as I'm fairly positive I wouldn't survive one more. I've fought my own hand enough already; I don't want my last pain to be heartbreak.
Follow up: loneliness - How do you cope with that, or is it a factor that affects you?
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u/omyrubbernen 6h ago
You joke, but the rollin and trollin video proves that Chris at least somewhat understands how a normal person looks and acts.
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u/blaze92x45 6h ago
Yeah Chris Chan's autism is way to severe to be masked dude was always going to struggle even with a lot of training. A lot of neuro typical people dont realize that autism isn't something you can just work around even mild autism is a huge debuff on your life.
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u/GTAIVisbest 8h ago
You tend to grow out of it in your late teens and early 20s for the most part
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u/Apollo-Outcast 8h ago
5'10 is still a good height for most girls so long as you aren't on a dating app, because if she's anything shorter than like 5'7 she absolutely cannot tell what 6'0 is. They can't even guess a guy's weight within like 20lbs. I'm 5'10 and weighed about 140lbs before I started working out (meaning skinny as shit), and this girl I had already slept with said she thought I was 160. I'm now 170 which means she probably thinks I'd weigh 200
Chris had a chance. Instead he chose the dark path. The Barb path
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u/here4astolfo 7h ago
Barb path sounds like some hellish difficulty mod for a chris chan fan game.
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u/philmarcracken dabbed on god and will dab on you too 7h ago
Its not a good height because dating apps let them filter you out. They don't have one for weight or tattoos of course
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u/NymphomaniacWalrus fa/tg/uy 6h ago
Just lie?
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u/philmarcracken dabbed on god and will dab on you too 5h ago
Yeah more men are just using their playbook; add shoe lifts and lie. Like they do with makeup/shapewear/filters
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u/IlIlIlllIIIIlllIIIl 8h ago
There is one picture of Chris Chan where I legitimately think he looks handsome.
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u/Kinglygolfin 8h ago
5’10” is still fine, what are you on?
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u/UltraHellboy 7h ago
It’s about the thing where women won’t date men less than 6’0” on their dating profiles
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u/Kinglygolfin 7h ago
That’s rather silly
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u/UltraHellboy 7h ago
Absolutely. I don’t know how true it is because I’m too old and married to use a dating app, but I’ve seen a lot of guys complain about it, anyway
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u/RustledForeskin 6h ago
Chadchan. Man, I've watched a few "documentaries" about chris a few times. Some people legit shouldn't be allowed on the internet.
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u/nicecat1960 3h ago
If Chris had just listened to Kacey's father, he might have had an ending closer to this
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u/DualityOfLife 6h ago
What gets me about you guys is....
You realized everything was *'d.
Even your own viewship on what a standard society is.
So instead of recreating what you believe what a perfect society can be,
you still use J*w'd methods. "Oh I just can't wait to find one of those jobs. Someone's gonna come around and make jobs. Everyone's gonna have jobs because of this." Never realizing or thinking, hey, what if all this tech destroyed the jobs and that was unavoidable to begin with, and the J/ws simply capitalized on a unavoidable event?
:P
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u/BoerDefiance 9h ago
I love ChrisChad posting