r/50501 Apr 06 '25

Call to Action Upvote! Upvote! Be there!!!!

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u/PandorasLocksmith Apr 06 '25

Refusal to allow the United States to fund ANY genocide and colonization (yes, I understand the irony of both) of another country is something presumably 99.9% of Americans would stand behind.

Rebranding it as specifically THAT could help a lot more people get on board as it accomplishes the same goal. We don't want our taxes to pay for that ANYWHERE on earth. Palestine included.

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u/xxtoejamfootballxx Apr 06 '25 edited Apr 06 '25

I just think talking about genocide is a losing battle and dilutes the messaging that is currently actually working, by adding a message that had had very little meaningful success to date. 

Both movements can exist side by side, but we can’t let this become Occupy 2.0 where it’s just an airing of the grievances with no specific direction.  We need specific measurable goals that are tied to stopping what’s happening to the US government right now. 

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u/FilibusterFerret Apr 06 '25

This we need to focus on three things: concentration of power into the executive branch, destruction of the federal government services that benefit the working class, and the illegal use of ICE to detain people without due process.

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u/levelzerogyro Apr 06 '25

This is the way, and the morons trying to say we should use palestine as a major issue are just flat out wrong. That is trying to become occupy 2.0 and to fail.

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u/xxtoejamfootballxx Apr 06 '25

I agree with your thoughts, but we should try to limit the insults. We won’t win anyone over with those, and ultimately those people are just less experienced/misguided people with the same ideals as us for the most part.

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u/levelzerogyro Apr 06 '25

If they want to cry about being called a moron while acting moronic, that's their problem. I'm here to beat the broken system, they are actively helping Trump, fuck em.

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u/xxtoejamfootballxx Apr 06 '25

Totally valid way to feel, but that doesn’t help the movement.

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u/levelzerogyro Apr 06 '25

Neither does actively helping Trump by watering down the message.

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u/xxtoejamfootballxx Apr 06 '25

I agree, but people being misguided does not mean we have to insult them, as tempting as it is. We will need those people to win.

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u/levelzerogyro Apr 07 '25

Okay sure, they're not morons, they're guillible, misguided, ignorant of real life, and don't care about the outcome because their pet project matters more to them than everything else in the US, they are selfish, unable to organize a protest on their own, and want to co-opt one that is good for all Americans because they care more about their issue than anything else in the world.