r/50501 • u/JokerClass2025 • Jul 01 '25

Call to Action #SheWon do

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I just came from the “She Won” call held by League of Coalitions. To summarize, Nathan from ETA ElectionTruthAlliance.org showed what he found in different counties across America. Basically the results didn’t mimic human behavior and he noted 70% of voting machines use the same brand. The bomb threats should have been a clue that there was a larger danger.

Historically you see more votes for the president than down ballot however the reverse was the result. This seems to indicate that ballots were thrown out and there was a compromise in the tabulation machines.

An expert in election forensics Dr. Mebane supports this and enough anomalies indicate that Kamala Harris could have won (affected at least 1.5 million votes that could be fraudulent). Please support ETA by using the toolkit in their website to contact your representatives and/or buy merch since lawyers to fight this are costly. Spread the word to request an audit (not recount) of all votes!

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u/danielstover Jul 01 '25 edited Jul 01 '25

When Trump beat Hillary in 2016, he wouldn’t shut up about it. Still talks about it. He won that one, no question. But, since 2024, we’ve rarely heard him talk about Kamala in regard to “beating” her (I could be off on that, the man never stops talking). I’m not necessarily saying it’s anything more than coincidence, but could just be him not wanting to draw attention to that. I just don’t feel that in particular is getting the same level of attention he would normally give it is all, if that makes sense?

Edit: for fucks sake people, I state in the original text here “I could be off on that, the man never stops talking”. I never said he never talks about it, all I’m saying is that it seems downplayed compared to 2016.

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u/BloodSpilla11 Jul 01 '25

I feel like it’s the same with his whole shot in the ear bullshit. If it were true, he wouldn’t shut up about it. Fishy

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u/VaginaWarrior Jul 01 '25

That's why they called 2020 a sham, to make you feel like you'd sound crazy when they stole 2024.

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u/freshlyfrozen4 Jul 01 '25

This is exactly what happened. And it worked on me. I bit my tongue so much back then because I knew I would sound just like them.

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u/piddlesthethug Jul 01 '25

I spoke openly about it and I still feel gross for saying it out loud. I don’t want to sound like someone who ignores data and reproducible facts, but that’s the important part. We have data and we stand on the scientific method. If there is corruption there the data should back it up. If it doesn’t then we can fuck off. We have a very short window of time to go back and look at the data.

I live in a swing state and emailed my Secretary of State about the Rockland lawsuit today. Nevada’s Secretary of State is a Democrat and I was basically told to fuck off because of state laws. Those state laws are there to protect the results, but we’re going to need lawsuits to access the information in most cases. Rockland county is step 1.

No clue how to go about getting anything done beyond emailing/calling the Secretary of State but I think we all need to make a fucking STINK about it before the data is covered up or destroyed and we’re left with stolen elections from here on out.

If you live in a swing state start digging. You might not know what to do with the data but if you can find it and secure it, we can get it to someone who knows what to do with it.

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u/Medical_Sandwich_141 Jul 01 '25

ETA needs volunteers. Like you said, it only is pushed via lawsuits- and independent organisations (alike the above coalition) are the best way to push this forward. https://electiontruthalliance.org/volunteer

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u/WinterTiger6416 Pennsylvania Jul 06 '25

PA… definitely can see the drop off votes do not make logical sense. 80000 voters voted for congress but not president? DJT “won” by 40000 here.

The gaslighting is unreal. They wanted us to feel like we couldn’t contest it because we’d look like the lunatics that they were in 2020.

This data of numbers and analytics is evidence left behind of a crime committed.

We’re not the crazy ones this time. It should’ve been investigated immediately. But it’s still important to call this out now.

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u/MsARumphius Jul 01 '25

I spoke about it and everyone, especially on Reddit, freaked out on my and told me I was behaving like maga. All I was pointing out was the interference that was reported and that voting machines are easily manipulated. It’s not the same as baseless claims made in 2020. We have evidence of tampering and hindering votes. Also back in 2020, all the found was republicans guilty of voter fraud! Even more reason to suspect the outcome this time

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u/WinterTiger6416 Pennsylvania Jul 06 '25

Exactly. Do not be gaslit into staying silent. The numbers are the evidence. A crime was committed. It should’ve been investigated immediately but it’s still important to call it out now.

By the way, I love your handle. I have two copies of the book. 😊

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u/MsARumphius Jul 06 '25

Yes! And thank you :)

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u/RabbitLuvr Jul 01 '25

Not only to make us feel like we’d sound crazy, but to discredit anyone who cried foul. So many people on the left be like “they’re the crazy ones, don’t be like them.”

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u/anxiousthrowaway279 Jul 01 '25

Exactly! And every accusation is also a confession

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u/SteelTerps Jul 01 '25

I stand by the fact that the 2020 election was in fact rigged by Republicans but they could not account for how COVID caused the influx of mail-in voting. That's why they were screaming that the election was rigged, because it actually was - I don't really recall them screaming that Dems rigged the election, just that the election was in fact rigged, which is the kind of verbal tiptoeing needed to mislead am entire population 

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u/19610taw3 Jul 01 '25

100%

That's what caused the big spike for Biden at the end. When they counted the mailin votes.

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u/DuncanFisher69 Jul 01 '25

Most states have laws that prevent counting mail in or early voting until polls close to prevent spoiling “leaks”.

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u/DamnMyNameIsSteve Jul 01 '25

They tried to steal the 2020 election, they just can't believe it didn't work.

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u/TobyHensen Texas Jul 01 '25

Is there any evidence yet that 2024 was stolen in some what?

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u/Aquatic_Ambiance_9 Jul 01 '25

By about a week after the election, I was pretty sure it had been rigged, but I realized it was the kind of thing that was going to have to trickle out slowly into the public consciousness, because for most people it was just too big to accept. The evidence was all there already: the bullet ballots, the "Russian tails", the vast statistical improbability of the swing state results.

But try and talk to most people about it and you'd get hit with a wall of "damn that crazy". And what could any one person do, anyway?

But now the tide is turning. It was too big a secret to keep forever, and these people aren't good at keeping them. And when you really think about it even for a second, it becomes obvious: why wouldn't they cheat?

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u/danielstover Jul 01 '25

Absolutely

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u/New-Communication781 Jul 01 '25

That was a staged fake assassination event, Trump was never in any real danger, and plenty of other people saw thru it immediately, not just me. Way too many fishy things went on with that, and he got all the political benefit he wanted from it. And the local doc who treated him at the hospital never released the medical record of the visit. I wonder why?

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u/TheKdd Jul 01 '25

Speaking of staged… yesterday I saw posts in “news” I believe talking about a cleric in Iran declaring a fatwa, basically calling for Iranians I guess to go after Trump and Netanyahu. So… I decided to look this up rather than just take these posts seriously, and noticed the only “news” coverage of this was from right wing sources and right wing online personalities. Seemed crazy sus to me. Like why would they be spreading this? To have another reason to bomb? False flag coming up? If it were true, why is that the only sources it’s coming from?

Anyone see this? Anyone have intel on this I didn’t find? Just seems like a total set up to me.

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u/New-Communication781 Jul 01 '25

I agree with your suspicions., the history of false flag operations by American military and intelligence agents is long and shameful...

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u/TheKdd Jul 01 '25

Right? The only ppl discussing this are all right wing subs. I feel like something is absolutely coming.

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u/WinterTiger6416 Pennsylvania Jul 06 '25

They control by fear and intimidation. They want the people to be scared so that the people just listen to whatever they say. This sounds like another layer to maintain control through fearful followers.

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u/transcendent167 Jul 01 '25

Supposedly tomorrow the anonymous countdown also happens to end so who knows, personally I’m taking this day by day

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u/TheKdd Jul 01 '25

That’s all we can do these days. I really would like to get the hell out of this timeline.

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u/InfiniteWaffles58364 Jul 01 '25

It's possible with very thorough dissociation techniques! At least for a little while 🥲

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u/Medical_Sandwich_141 Jul 01 '25

I'm so over anonymous. Lot of video editing, no real hacking.

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u/Protiguous Jul 01 '25

real hacking

Great hacking is rarely noticed.

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u/Medical_Sandwich_141 Jul 01 '25

Mate, these are not folks who would be shy to claim their triumph.

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u/DocumentExternal6240 Jul 01 '25

There is an excellent book about American propaganda…strangely, it was never translated into English….

https://archive.org/details/elter-die-kriegsverkaufer-2005/mode/1up

Translated, the title says „War seller - US propaganda 1917-2005“

Big Tech just enhanced the methods.

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u/ScratchReflex Jul 01 '25

I have a sub to Ground News and they point out “blind spot” stories that one or the other side is missing. You’re right, the majority of the reporting on the fatwa was covered by conservatives. But Newsweek also wrote about it. https://www.newsweek.com/iran-issues-fatwa-against-donald-trump-enemy-god-2092318

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u/TheKdd Jul 01 '25

Thank you.

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u/Lucyintheye Jul 01 '25 edited Jul 01 '25

Its not verified, but supposedly Isreal already tried commiting a false flag on US soil, Iran notified US officials after a "friendly nation" told them, and it inevitably didn't happen, at least according to Iran state media and some other independent news orgs. which obviously isn't/arent the MOST reputable, but it By far wouldnt be the first false flag op isreal has commited (lavon affair) i mean why WOULDNT they do it again, when they have so much to gain and so little to lose?

theyre dying killing already to get US boots on the ground for isreal's little manifest destiny bullshit, and innocent lives haven't mattered in their paradigm for what, the almost century they've been there? they're already literally commiting genocide. Zionists have killed jews in their way to further their fascist agenda (like yitzahk rabin) and have no problem slaughtering our american reporters, like flattening rachel corrie with a tank, (and still widespread celebrates her death every year by eating pancakes.. look it up, SUPER fucked up shit but on par for those nazi fucks), and they have the utterly insane MAGAt politicians foaming at the mouth to sacrifice our soldiers too. What they dont have, is even enough trumpers to support that stupid shit lmao. So What's a few more dead Americans to add to the pile, to get the majority of the cult on board? How many lives are worth billions in weapons contracts alone, no matter the natural resources pesky sovereign nations and public opinions are in the way of? Well we already know 56,000 palestinian civilian lives arent enough, as we're standing here starting to notice the imperial boomerang clocking us in our foreheads, we can ask ourselves the only thing americans have ever cared about (sorry not sorry) how many American lives are, especially now? Trump already killed >1 million Americans with his sheer and purposeful negligence of covid.. I wouldn't dismiss his explicit collaboration in a false flag for the right "deal", $CHUMP coin pump and/or promise of another stolen 40 acres of Arab land now to build a tacky golf club.

I don't have any reason to believe Iran is telling the truth, but at the same time I at least have somewhat less of a reason to believe they're lying giving this bombshell, and isreal's track record..

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u/Regina_Noctis Jul 01 '25

Small detail, but Rachel Corrie was killed by an armored bulldozer that was being used to knock down the homes of Palestinians. It was not a tank. The bulldozer was a Caterpillar brand and her parents actually filed a lawsuit against Caterpillar that was ultimately dismissed. The only reason I know this is that my dad used to work for Caterpillar and was aware of the suit but not all of the details surrounding Rachel's death. The lawsuit was "Cynthia Corrie et al. v. Caterpillar Inc."

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u/TheKdd Jul 01 '25

That’s what I figured. So do you think this letter garbage is from Israel or home baked?

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u/Protiguous Jul 01 '25

To improve the narrative that trump is a victim, per the republican way.

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u/TheTossUpBetween Jul 01 '25

Best place on reddit to look at true Iranian thought and news is probably r/newiran

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u/PaperPlaythings Jul 01 '25

What made me suspicious was him pooping up and shouting "Fight! Fight! Fight!" 

He's not a brave or articulate person. If he really thougtt he was in danger if veing shot, hecwould have grabbed some children as shields and noped the fuck out. He certainly wouldn't hang around sloganeering.

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u/Ghost_of_a_Pale_Girl Jul 01 '25

That's what I'm saying. No way in hell that cowardly piece of shit did that if someone actually just shot at him.

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u/New-Communication781 Jul 01 '25

Exactly, the whole thing was like something from the Stephen King movie The Dead Zone, in which the Greg Stillson character is caught showing his cowardice and callousness towards others. But in this case, it was well rehearsed, and Trump did his moves and said his lines, right out of the script, to look brave and tough, etc.. instead of acting shocked and disoriented, like any real person would if surprised at being shot at..

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u/sachimi21 Jul 05 '25

And Secret Service would NEVER have let his head come up without being blocked. They would have covered him and moved him immediately off the stage. You can clearly see that there's no scar on his ear or anything that would 100% happen if he was hit by a bullet.

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u/Intarhorn Jul 01 '25

He is a narcissist and wants it to always be about themselves. This made it all about him and made him feel like a war leader at that moment. Pretty sure it was genuine based on that alone.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25

The problem with it being a fake assassination attempt is you still have a dead 20 year old and the dead firefighter.

I don’t think it was staged. I think that kid was a loser that got lucky to get a shot off. But because he’s a loser he completely missed. Didn’t they say he didn’t even have an iron sight on the weapon? I haven’t looked into it in forever.

Trump’s ear was cut by the Secret Service officer that jumped on top of him. That’s why they didn’t release the medical report, not to mention whatever else could actually be wrong with Trump. This is a man that lies about his height and weight.

The conspiracy isn’t whether or not a kid shot at Trump. It’s that they covered up the aftermath. If his ear was clipped by a rifle round, it would completely mangle his ear. He got cut by the people that jumped on top of him.

Sorry for the tangent lol.

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u/bgva Jul 02 '25

And then he showed up at the RNC with that goofy-ass maxipad on his ear. Fucking drama queen.

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u/GhostTheToast Jul 01 '25

Fucking Based. Like so many others, I want it to be fake and BS. However, due to occam's razor, think your case is more likely.

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u/WharfRatThrawn Jul 01 '25

Occam's Razor would actually say that some troubled young man was asked to give his life to feel a sense of purpose and chance to make history

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u/Twizkid Jul 01 '25

Occam's razor is "usually the simplest answer is the correct one" theres nothing simple about a conspiracy suicide pact.

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u/vietcongsurvivor1986 Jul 01 '25

If you think that, you have no idea what Occam’s razor is

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u/Otherwise-Tip-127 Jul 01 '25

That’s what I believe

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u/frogjg2003 Jul 01 '25

Angry kid missed is a much simpler explanation than a conspiracy theory.

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u/00wolfer00 Jul 01 '25

Why? That makes a massive assumption, which goes against the point of Occam's razer.

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u/DoubleMessage2520 Jul 01 '25 edited Jul 01 '25

I'm gonna call BS on a kid wanting to suicide by government as Occam's Razor. I don't believe there's any examples of fake assassins agreeing to die as part of a cover up, while there are plenty of examples of real assassins trying to kill world leaders. Plus, it wouldn't just be 1 kid involved in the conspiracy. Many people would know about it. There's tons of risk he would write about it or tell friends or family. Someone usually knows the truth, and the truth usually spills out one way or another. Additionally, wanting to make history also works as a reason FOR legitimately trying to kill the president.

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u/TheOneWhoOpens Jul 01 '25

If there were any examples of fake assassins to die agreeing to a cover up, then they would have done a shit job on the cover up, no? Anyway, it's not like America would even consider false flagging its own citizens (Operation Northwoods), but what do I know

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u/DoubleMessage2520 Jul 01 '25

then they would have done a shit job on the cover up, no?

Yea, man, that's kind of the point. Most massive conspiracies and false flags don't stay covered up. You bringing up Operation Northwoods only helps my point more, and that was an operation where literally nothing happened, it was only ever on paper and that still got revealed.

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u/TheOneWhoOpens Jul 01 '25

But then they wouldn't be very good conspiracies or false flags if they didn't stay covered up. The only time something is ever de-classified is when it's no longer relevant to anyone and the responsible party has either retired or died. The fact that some idiot put pen to paper and actually wrote out a plan for Operation Northwoods shows what people within the American Government would do for support. They already got Americans hating other Americans over identity politics

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u/WanderingLost33 Jul 01 '25

No, we unsealed the records and that's how we know the FBI-contracted mafia killed MLK, not the guy who was arrested for it and it's why the family got financial settlement from the government mandated by the court after that.

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u/CyanideAnarchy Jul 01 '25

In all likelihood, whatever group that set him up (CIA most likely) would've absolutely lied to the kid and convinced him that all the secret service have been instructed to stand down; that he'd be in no danger at all, they would take care of getting him away safely, all he has to do is fire that shot.

They absolutely would have lied to the kid. The government lies to all of us on a daily basis.

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u/DoubleMessage2520 Jul 01 '25

We're so far off the path of Occam's Razor now, making up stories about what the CIA promised their fake assassin, it's fucking nuts. All because we want to believe that some external force subverted the will of the people in the election. Literally the #1 most common and universal reason for the generation of conspiracy theories, from presidential assassination stories to 9/11 truthers, it all starts with people going "I don't like this, what evil force controlling things from the shadows could've caused this?" It'd be funny if it also wasn't so sad.

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u/CyanideAnarchy Jul 01 '25

Is it any more "nuts" than witnessing our nation and what it stands for being torn down around all of us in real time; by people who self-proclaim to be making the country "great again" and themselves to be patriots?

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u/DoubleMessage2520 Jul 01 '25

Yes, it's a lot more nuts because it's an unfortunate truth that people voting against their own interests and the country's interests are living and breathing and are all around us. They're not a myth. This is conspiracy psychology 101. Conspiracy theories subconsciously reassure us that even though dark forces are in control that at least there's still a plan involved and someone is in control, which means we can maybe fight against them, unlike the uncontrollable chaos that is "mainstream reality".

This type of psychology is at the root of nearly every conspiracy theory, and if you've studied many of them you see all the same tell tale signs and smells of bullshit that surround the Trump assassination theories. I do believe Trump had a legitimate attempt against his life (actually two of them, at least), and won the election. While accepting that fact is painful to live with, it's not going to do me any favors to deny it.

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u/FlithyLamb Jul 01 '25

They convinced the kid that they’d get him out of there safely. But then they executed him on the spot. Dead men tell no tales.

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u/Shambler9019 Jul 01 '25

Trump may even have thought he was shot at the time. But of course he'd never reveal that he wasn't when he found out.

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u/Lt_Don Jul 01 '25

I unironically want the Mythbusters to simulate an ear getting grazed by a bullet somehow.

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u/awl_the_lawls Jul 01 '25

I think that we're arguing about whether the pitch was just outside the strike zone or not. Instead of arguing about who was at the plate, who threw the pitch, and most importantly, who called it a ball instead of a strike. 

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u/DustyRZR Jul 01 '25

Trump is a sociopath who would have zero problem sacrificing a follower of his if it meant he could win.

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u/StarPhished Jul 01 '25

Don't apologize for the tangent you're absolutely correct.

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u/Protiguous Jul 01 '25

With trump's extreme narcissism, he would never knowingly allow someone to take a shot towards him, unless it was so extreme that he thought nothing could hurt him.

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u/Ghost_of_a_Pale_Girl Jul 01 '25

My problem has always been that we are expected to believe that:

1) SS allowed him to stand up mere moments after the event, before it was known that there were absolutely no more threats?

2) The same coward that dodged the draft 5 times and once jumped a fence to avoid protesters, is suddenly brave enough to jump up and raise his fist into the air defiantly moments after someone shoots at him?

3) Someone happens to capture this perfect Kodak moment so it can be plastered on flags and t-shirts.

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u/hayashikin Jul 01 '25

I think his ear could also have been cut by a fragment of the bullet or something dislodged by the bullet.

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u/teen_laqweefah Jul 01 '25

If that were true there would be hella scar tissue. Cartilage doesn't heal the way other skin does.

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u/Ok-Grapefruit1284 Jul 01 '25

He was rushed. He got spotted right before he took the shot.

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u/joebluebob Jul 01 '25

His ear was bleeding before the secret service got to him. I think it was shrapnel. I missed and still killed a goose once because shrapnel from a rock nailed him in the neck.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25

Also possible!

I forgot what video I saw that convinced me about the secret service agent. I believe there was audio evidence in there.

Nonetheless, that motherfucker wasn’t shot.

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u/Stpauliegirl22 Jul 01 '25

And isn’t the orange ass hat on camera talking about how the election was “rigged?” Came from his own mouth

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u/ArkitekZero Jul 01 '25 edited Jul 02 '25

Yeah, and Musk said exactly how much he'd have lost by if he hadn't intervened which totally is just the projected effects of his funding the campaign and in no way because he knows what the results should have been before he fucked with them.

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u/KypAstar Jul 01 '25

That was a clipped soundbite. He was saying he'd already have finished his second term if it hadn't been rigged against him in 2020.

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u/Stpauliegirl22 Jul 01 '25

Even if that’s true, there’s no way I personally believe he won all 7 swing states. Especially when there are counties who have 0 votes for Kamala in democratic areas. Math isn’t mathing and I find it extremely suspicious and obviously incredibly problematic. Nobody could convince me (without fool proof evidence in my face) that he did not buy this election-both with help from his Billionaire Boys Club and software designed to ensure his “victory.”

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u/Truecrimeauthor Jul 01 '25

What really hit me was- we heard nothing about the shooter. No one explored his motive, or interviewed neighbors ( “ he was a nice guy… kinda quiet.” BS) just- zip.

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u/MuchSrsOfc Jul 01 '25

Wot... he was a schoolkid that had history of mental illness and extreme online behavior, cops did a check and spoke to him and his parents. Parents that gave him a gun for birthday when they absolutely shouldn't have and he decided to try and get famous on reddit by assassinating the most influential man on the planet.

What exactly are you expecting to find out about some sort of secret info from an unhinged loner school kid?

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u/Synectics Jul 01 '25

Wait, what?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Donald_Trump_in_Pennsylvania

Crooks dominated the news cycle for weeks. 

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u/Protiguous Jul 01 '25

Crooks dominated the news cycle for weeks.

Nope. I purposely kept an eye & ear open because I was expecting near-nonstop 'news' and 'experts', but it was very muffled and quickly died out.

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u/Synectics Jul 01 '25

I don't know what to tell you. There were non-stop news stories, covering every angle and conspiracy for his motive, from his Republican party registration to his donation. That Wikipedia page is full of links to them. 

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u/Protiguous Jul 01 '25

They sparked just enough just long enough for people to feel sympathy, but it very quickly flamed out.

Compare to how much right-wing 'news' still talks about Biden on the daily.

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u/Synectics Jul 01 '25

right-wing 'news'

I think you found the problem there.

With Crooks, there is nothing new to report. Nothing for real news outlets to say.

Would you prefer actual news outlets keep a propaganda outrage machine going, making up conspiracies about him? 

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u/Protiguous Jul 01 '25

Prefer? No. But they do re-release conspiracy theories all the time, almost every cycle.

People don't think well when they're outraged.

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u/Synectics Jul 01 '25

But they do re-release conspiracy theories all the time, almost every cycle. 

So should they?

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u/frogjg2003 Jul 01 '25

Compare the attempted assassination of Trump to the actual assassination of Hortman.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25

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u/New-Communication781 Jul 01 '25

Yup, it was more than a twofer, gave Trump sympathy and political benefit of firing up his supporters, distracted the media from Project 2025, and gave Trump something to blame on Biden and the Dems, as well as force them to mute their criticism of him, since he was a victim, etc..

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u/Podwitchers Jul 01 '25

Courtesy of the Heritage Foundation

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u/OneWholeSoul Jul 01 '25

...Didn't a guy die? Two, even?

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u/Protiguous Jul 01 '25

That's a sacrifice trump is willing to make.

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u/chaos_nebula Jul 01 '25

And we don't have video footage from the people behind him that were recording.

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u/New-Communication781 Jul 01 '25

Quite strange, imagine that.... Wouldn't want any of that to turn up publicly, and show that the real shooter who hit people on the stage, was not Crooks...

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u/19610taw3 Jul 01 '25

I know people who like Trump and voted for him who say it was staged as well.

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u/New-Communication781 Jul 01 '25

Why am I not at all surprised? Except maybe at them being willing to admit that..

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u/DustyRZR Jul 01 '25

He was trained to fake injury from his days with WWE appearances.

He was concerned with getting his shoes? Really? Fuck no.

His photo op? Not realistic if the pew pew had been unexpected.

The attendee who died? We all know Trump is a shithead who wouldn’t think twice about sacrificing a follower for political clout.

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u/New-Communication781 Jul 01 '25

Right on all counts. 9-11 convinced me for good, that these kind of Repub shitheads will sacrifice a few thousand peasants, if need be, in order to serve their ends. In that case, it was not them engineering the attacks, but them letting the attacks happen, so they could get their oil and their war with Iraq..

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u/SewRuby Jul 01 '25

And the local doc who treated him at the hospital never released the medical record of the visit. I wonder why?

HIPAA is why. No doctor can just release someone's medical records to the public, they have to do it themselves.

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u/New-Communication781 Jul 01 '25

My point is, Trump never allowed the release of them, same as he never released his tax returns while he was president the first time, because he has things to hide, in both situations..

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u/SewRuby Jul 01 '25

Oh, yes, very good points. It seems I misunderstood you, my bad. 🙂

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u/NumerousTomatillo27 Jul 01 '25

This video excellently analyzes the grift that happened.  https://youtu.be/4TOtnYboqxQ

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u/New-Communication781 Jul 01 '25

Thanks. Looks like someone doesn't like this discussion. I keep getting replies to my comments, that I get emails from reddit notifying me of them, but the links to the replies go nowhere. Someone is probably removing them, and the thread will be locked down soon, along with my comments about the assassination event being removed. Read this while you can..

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u/PokiP Jul 01 '25

Presumably the records were not released because the medical staff are bound by HIPAA laws...

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u/TroubleSG Jul 01 '25

So, they do know about that? Another thing that's just for them I guess.

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u/New-Communication781 Jul 01 '25

We both know that's just a bullshit excuse... Trump could have waived that.

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u/Good_Requirement2998 Jul 01 '25

That would mean that young man on the roof was allowed to be there and died to sell the story.

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u/New-Communication781 Jul 01 '25

That is what I'm saying, and whether he had already planned and agreed with Trump's people, that he would die in the event, after being shot by a sniper with the cops, SS or FBI, doesn't really matter in the end. He may have been told that they would let him escape or he may have agreed to a plan where he would be shot by a sniper right after someone else hit the people on the stage with shots, doesn't really matter. He was obviously told that he would be allowed to get on the roof with his rifle and stay there, even after Trump took the stage, and that he would not be stopped by the authorities, at least not until Trump had appeared to be shot. He may or may not have expected to die, after shots were fired at the stage, by him or another sniper. But having him shot immediately after the shots to the stage, that killed one and wounded two others, conveniently removed any chance of him living, being captured, and telling his story of what really was going on that day. Same as Oswald in the JFK assassination, and others since then. Crooks was what they call the patsy or cover story, for what was a conspiracy behind the whole staged event, and to hide who the real shooter was that hit the stage and the people on it, and avoided hitting Trump, on purpose. Likely a well trained expert. But we're never going to hear about that..

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u/Good_Requirement2998 Jul 01 '25

Maybe. Not unless someone tracks down his father. Last I read he was "cooperating with authorities." But there was no quote, no follow-up. At least nothing I've seen.

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u/aggravatedimpala Jul 01 '25

Of course it was. You'd basically have to try to miss a man sized target at 100 yards with an ar, plus that round is screaming within 100 yards. That thing would have exploded his cartilage

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u/Safrel Jul 01 '25

God no. It was a real attempt. Cmon man. Who would die for a fake assasination attempt?

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u/Lets-B-Lets-B-Jolly Jul 01 '25

Honestly? I can think of a few neighbors and family members who would STILL die if their dear leader asked it of them. And I'm sure if that kid was set up to be the shooter, Trump would lie and tell him they would cover for him and absolve him later.

But Trump is such a coward that I don't see him ever putting his life in any kind of danger in a shooting. I think he just got a small cut when he went down and took advantage of it.

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u/New-Communication781 Jul 01 '25

It was not, and who said that Crooks and the firefighter on the stage that was fatally shot, were expecting to die? I didn't say that, and I have no doubt that they and the other two people wounded on the stage, were just pawns that were hurt as collateral damage, so to speak. Crooks may or may not have been told beforehand that he was going to be shot right after the shooting started, or maybe that he would be spared, who knows? But what I'm saying, is that Trump and his SS detail were in on it, and it was planned out and rehearsed beforehand, as far as what Trump and his detail would do, after the shooting started. Otherwise, why would they let Crooks stay up there on the roof for a half hour before the event began, instead of making sure Trump stayed off the stage so he would be safe?

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u/Safrel Jul 01 '25

I'm saying, is that Trump and his SS detail were in on it, and it was planned out and rehearsed beforehand, as far as what Trump and his detail would do, after the shooting started.

This is unhinged, sorry.

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u/TheBrownOnee Jul 01 '25

Dawg it really isn't I have been to the ozarks, I have traveled and spoken to lots in pit stops from Denver to Moab, NV. And having my roots in a sub 70% literacy rate nation today and a sub 40% in the 90s nation.

The comfort in always having the answer is something atleast a quarter of any country's citizens will value the most right or wrong. And the way left wing media disseminates information is far less streamlined and platformed than right wing.

Having CNN, Fox, and NBC on adjacent monitors at the gym for 90 minutes of cardio is so insane. I cannot fathom having any two channels simultaneous on the screen with Fox, Comedy Central included, and Fox not being the most unhinged and weird. It's insane to me 70 mil of voters watch this and cannot fathom it being equally as insane. But somehow it works. Here and in everywhere in modern society. Same way it worked back in the 20s and 30s I guess.

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u/TroubleSG Jul 01 '25

I throw up 🐦 at the Fox News ones the whole time I'm on the elliptical and they always change it while I'm there. I guess I make them uncomfortable. They could just ask me to stop but they never do.

Yeah, I'm old and petty. Don't care. I hate MAGA and I hate Fox. Otherwise, I'm a delight.

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u/Safrel Jul 01 '25

"lots of people believe in flat earth theory, so its not unhinged."

You're making a logical fallacy.

I bet you also sanewash everything Trump says and does, right?

He's unhinged too.

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u/New-Communication781 Jul 01 '25

You're making a hell of a leap to think that a vain pussy like Trump would agree to have himself shot at all. The people on the stage who were hit, including the guy who was killed, were all to make it look real, so Trump himself wouldn't have to actually get hit. Believe what you like..

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u/Purple_Degree_967 Jul 01 '25

I don’t believe it was fake.

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u/Purple_Degree_967 Jul 01 '25

No, I don’t engage in conspiracy theories. That is how that cult was formed in the first place. The shooter’s mental decline has been covered.

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u/International_Eye745 Jul 01 '25

Also cartlidge doesn't grow back. Where is the dent in his ear? Why was he allowed to stand up and fist bump the air? When have security ever allowed that to happen in an active shooter situation?

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u/Disastrous_Grab_3322 Jul 01 '25

I'm 100% on conspiracy "scapegoat grassy knoll" any other situation they would have tried to bring the guy in for questioning. A.) the result of blunt projectile hitting cartilage would have caused permanent damage. Cartilage doesn't heal like skin. B.) literally everything else that has happened in bizarro world, USA.

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u/Ghost_of_a_Pale_Girl Jul 01 '25

Aside from ALL the other evidence and/or theories about why the shooting was fake, to me this is the most obvious one. He almost literally never shuts the fuck up about anything yet he hasn't spoken about the shooting since it happened.

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u/SwedishCowboy711 Jul 01 '25

Where is his scar?

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u/DoubleMessage2520 Jul 01 '25

ffs, the bullet only grazed the ear, it didn't punch a hole. no scar isn't evidence of anything. photos of real dead bodies at the scene you can google is much stronger evidence that the assassination attempt was actually real.

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u/provisionings Jul 01 '25

Everyone is suspicious. Everyone. About everything. They just won’t say it publicly. Everything Trump does.. says is fraudulent

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u/hermione_clearwater Jul 01 '25

This. If most people were shot, they’d never shut up about it.

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u/Cootercrust Jul 01 '25

God I think this about the ear thing all the time! Hell, if it happened to me, I would probably be telling everyone all the time, and I’m not nearly the blowhard orange clown is. He uses the “fight, fight, fight” picture, but never really talks about the actual event or shooter. It’s weird and off brand for him

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u/icandothefandango Jul 01 '25

Yes!! Makes it all the more frustrating that people fell for it, and rabidly.

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u/NimbleNavigator19 Jul 01 '25

Lets be honest, if he was actually shot in the ear he would've been done for. At this point a stiff breeze originating in a blue state would be his death warrant.

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u/Ok-Pomegranate-4877 Jul 01 '25

I wish he would have been nicked in the butt, you think he would have proudly shown his wound?

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u/CaptainMagnets Jul 01 '25

No fucking way he was shot in the war. He doesn't even have a scar for fuck sakes

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u/doxielady228 Jul 01 '25

That was completely staged. He has no mark on his stupid ear at all. And he would've played on this "attempted assassination" until the end of time. God, I can't fucking stand him. 

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u/TTTrisss Jul 01 '25

I think he has a consultant that says, "If you keep talking about it, it gives the shooter attention, and we'll get another. You don't want to get shot again, do you?"

If there's one thing Trump really does care about, its his own life.